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From: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
To: "Michał Cłapiński" <mclapinski@google.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Nitin Gupta <nigupta@nvidia.com>,
	Pasha Tatashin <tatashin@google.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] mm/compaction: remove low watermark cap for proactive compaction
Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2025 15:13:21 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <175ea8ba-e681-4de4-811e-c623acfb5e3a@suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAAi7L5cjw2Dwanqta9BVmZbgE_jRo1r-SyxKpiMa=2T8PH+Qbg@mail.gmail.com>

On 1/27/25 14:31, Michał Cłapiński wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 27, 2025 at 11:38 AM Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz> wrote:
>>
>> On 1/24/25 19:21, Michal Clapinski wrote:
>> > Previously a min cap of 5 has been set in the commit introducing
>> > proactive compaction. This was to make sure users don't hurt themselves
>> > by setting the proactiveness to 100 and making their system
>> > unresponsive. But the compaction mechanism has a backoff mechanism that
>> > will sleep for 30s if no progress is made, so I don't see a significant
>> > risk here. My system (20GB of memory) has been perfectly fine with
>> > proactiveness set to 100 and leeway set to 0.
> 
>> What if you don't set the leeway to 0?
> 
> When the fragmentation score (lower is better) gets larger than the
> high watermark, proactive compaction kicks in. Compaction stops when
> the score goes below the low watermark (or no progress is made and
> backoff kicks in). Leeway is the difference between low and high
> watermarks. So the bigger the leeway, the longer we have to wait for
> proactive compaction to kick in. Memory usage on the host would also
> look more like a sawtooth wave (slowly creeping up then sharp drop).

Oh I see, I got the direction opposite mentally, when responding.

But that writeup could go in some form to the patch/cover letter :)

> I set the leeway to 0 in this example because that's the most
> aggressive configuration. My system can't reach a fragmentation score
> of 0, so it tries to do compaction as often as possible.

And thus thought leeway of 0 means less agressive.

>> In other words, should we keep the cap in some sense but make it depend on the leeway?
> 
> I could do something like
> wmark_low = max(100U - sysctl_compaction_proactiveness,
> min(sysctl_compaction_proactiveness_leeway, 5U));
> and it would have the benefit of not changing the behavior of
> proactive compaction for current users. However, it would make it
> impossible to have a small low watermark with the default leeway.
> That's okay in my case but do we want to create those restrictions for
> the future users?

With that, the restriction seems unnecessary. Thanks.

  reply	other threads:[~2025-01-27 14:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-01-24 18:21 [PATCH 0/2] mm/compaction: allow more aggressive " Michal Clapinski
2025-01-24 18:21 ` [PATCH 1/2] mm/compaction: remove low watermark cap for " Michal Clapinski
2025-01-25 16:03   ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-01-27 10:38   ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-01-27 13:31     ` Michał Cłapiński
2025-01-27 14:13       ` Vlastimil Babka [this message]
2025-01-24 18:21 ` [PATCH 2/2] mm/compaction: expose a new param " Michal Clapinski
2025-01-25 16:20   ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-01-27 10:40     ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-01-27 10:36 ` [PATCH 0/2] mm/compaction: allow more aggressive " Vlastimil Babka

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