From: Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>
To: "Dong Feng" <middle.fengdong@gmail.com>
Cc: ak@suse.de, "Christoph Lameter" <clameter@sgi.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Why Semaphore Hardware-Dependent?
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 10:18:35 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <17650.13915.413019.784343@cargo.ozlabs.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a2ebde260608271222x2b51693fnaa600965fcfaa6d2@mail.gmail.com>
Dong Feng writes:
> Why can't we have a hardware-independent semaphore definition while we
> have already had hardware-dependent spinlock, rwlock, and rcu lock? It
> seems the semaphore definitions classified into two major categories.
> The main deference is whether there is a member variable _sleeper_.
> Does this (optional) member indicate any hardware family gene?
It indicates the presence of instructions that let you implement a
flexible atomic update, that is, either load-locked and
store-conditional instructions, or a compare-and-exchange instruction.
The original x86 implementation had the `count' and `sleepers' fields
in the semaphore structure. For PowerPC, I redesigned the semaphores
to have only the `count' field, which I was able to do because PowerPC
has `load with reservation' and `store conditional' instructions,
which one can use to construct code to do atomic updates where the
resulting value can be just about any function of the initial value.
For semaphores, I made a __sem_update_count function which atomically
updates the count field to (MAX(count, 0) + inc). That implementation
was subsequently picked up by other architectures with equivalent
instructions (alpha, mips, s390, sparc64, etc.). Have a look at
arch/powerpc/kernel/semaphore.c for the details.
I believe the reason for not doing something like this on x86 was the
fact that we still support i386 processors, which don't have the
cmpxchg instruction. That's fair enough, but I would be opposed to
making semaphores bigger and slower on PowerPC because of that. Hence
the two different styles of implementation.
Paul.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-08-28 0:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-08-27 19:22 Dong Feng
2006-08-27 20:52 ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-27 21:05 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-08-27 21:39 ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-27 22:14 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-08-28 0:18 ` Paul Mackerras [this message]
2006-08-28 5:14 ` Chris Wedgwood
2006-08-28 5:21 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-08-28 5:56 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-08-28 12:35 ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2006-08-28 7:23 ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-29 1:00 ` Paul Mackerras
2006-08-28 7:30 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-08-29 1:18 ` Nick Piggin
2006-08-29 6:07 ` Andi Kleen
2006-09-13 17:54 ` Nick Piggin
2006-08-29 10:05 ` David Howells
2006-08-29 10:56 ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-29 17:40 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-29 19:10 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2006-08-29 15:56 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-08-29 16:20 ` Ralf Baechle
2006-08-29 16:25 ` David Howells
2006-08-29 16:28 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-08-29 16:53 ` Ralf Baechle
2006-08-29 16:58 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2006-08-29 16:57 ` David Howells
2006-08-29 17:22 ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-29 17:36 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-08-29 18:18 ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-29 18:41 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-08-29 18:30 ` David Howells
2006-08-29 18:33 ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-29 18:56 ` David Howells
2006-09-13 18:04 ` Nick Piggin
2006-09-13 18:07 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-13 18:13 ` Nick Piggin
2006-09-13 18:16 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-13 18:50 ` David Howells
2006-09-13 19:25 ` Nick Piggin
2006-09-14 11:41 ` David Howells
2006-09-14 15:27 ` Nick Piggin
2006-09-14 15:38 ` Nick Piggin
2006-09-15 8:59 ` David Howells
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