From: Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
Cc: Alexandre Oliva <aoliva@redhat.com>,
Ricardo Galli <gallir@gmail.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: GPL only modules
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 11:43:08 +1100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <17799.13724.579027.764565@cargo.ozlabs.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0612181554430.3479@woody.osdl.org>
Linus Torvalds writes:
>
>
> On Tue, 19 Dec 2006, Paul Mackerras wrote:
> >
> > There is in fact a pretty substantial non-technical difference between
> > static and dynamic linking. If I create a binary by static linking
> > and I include some library, and I distribute that binary to someone
> > else, the recipient doesn't need to have a separate copy of the
> > library, because they get one in the binary.
>
> I agree, and I do agree that it's a real difference.
>
> I personally think that it's the "aggregation" issue, not a "derivation"
> issue, but I'll freely admit that it's just my personal view of the
> situation.
I think the critical issue is whether any human creativity is required
to establish derivation.
Clearly there is some modification and adaptation that ld does to a
library in the process of linking it into a binary, and ld is unlike
mkisofs or gzip in that you can't extract the library in its original
form (or any form suitable for linking with another program) from the
output of ld --static.
The question is whether it matters that the process that ld does is
mechanical in nature. This is possibly an area where you'll get a
different answer in different jurisdictions. I believe that in the
US, some creative input is required to establish copyright, whereas in
Australia, only "effort" is needed. I don't know whether that affects
the definition of "derived work".
I personally would think that a mechanical process of modification
*does* create a derived work, but it would take a court of law or a
legislature to make an authoritative decision, I guess.
Paul.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-12-19 0:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-12-16 18:27 GPL only modules [was Re: [GIT PATCH] more Driver core patches for 2.6.19] Ricardo Galli
2006-12-16 21:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-17 0:22 ` Ricardo Galli
2006-12-17 4:10 ` Theodore Tso
2006-12-17 13:54 ` GPL only modules Alexandre Oliva
2006-12-17 15:56 ` Ricardo Galli
2006-12-17 16:25 ` Kyle Moffett
2006-12-17 21:32 ` David Schwartz
2006-12-17 21:46 ` D. Hazelton
2006-12-18 15:47 ` Dave Neuer
2006-12-18 17:46 ` D. Hazelton
2006-12-18 21:01 ` Dave Neuer
2006-12-18 17:16 ` David Schwartz
2006-12-19 6:35 ` D. Hazelton
2006-12-19 16:39 ` David Lang
2006-12-18 19:41 ` Alexandre Oliva
2006-12-18 22:14 ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-12-19 3:42 ` D. Hazelton
2006-12-20 1:02 ` Alexandre Oliva
2006-12-20 23:28 ` Scott Preece
2006-12-17 17:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-17 22:45 ` Paul Mackerras
2006-12-18 6:50 ` Junio C Hamano
2006-12-18 23:16 ` Paul Mackerras
2006-12-18 15:38 ` Dave Neuer
2006-12-18 17:02 ` Theodore Tso
2006-12-18 17:23 ` Dave Neuer
2006-12-18 19:27 ` Alexandre Oliva
2006-12-18 19:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-18 20:37 ` Alexandre Oliva
2006-12-18 20:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-18 21:23 ` David Schwartz
2006-12-18 22:35 ` Scott Preece
2006-12-19 1:29 ` David Schwartz
2006-12-19 16:55 ` Scott Preece
2006-12-20 0:09 ` Alexandre Oliva
2006-12-20 0:06 ` Alexandre Oliva
2006-12-18 22:06 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2006-12-18 23:28 ` Alexandre Oliva
2006-12-19 1:35 ` David Schwartz
2006-12-19 2:38 ` D. Hazelton
2006-12-19 12:42 ` Horst H. von Brand
2006-12-20 0:20 ` Alexandre Oliva
2006-12-18 23:52 ` Paul Mackerras
2006-12-18 23:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-19 0:43 ` Paul Mackerras [this message]
2006-12-19 1:39 ` David Schwartz
2006-12-19 4:20 ` Daniel Barkalow
2006-12-20 19:14 ` David Schwartz
2006-12-20 23:08 ` Scott Preece
2006-12-20 23:26 ` David Schwartz
2006-12-19 7:39 ` Giacomo A. Catenazzi
2006-12-19 7:40 ` Giacomo A. Catenazzi
2006-12-19 8:00 ` Sanjoy Mahajan
2006-12-19 13:09 ` Horst H. von Brand
2006-12-19 17:27 ` Sanjoy Mahajan
2006-12-20 1:06 ` Alexandre Oliva
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-12-14 0:32 GPL only modules [was Re: [GIT PATCH] more Driver core patches for 2.6.19] Greg KH
2006-12-14 0:43 ` Jonathan Corbet
2006-12-14 0:55 ` Greg KH
2006-12-14 4:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-14 15:46 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-12-14 17:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-14 17:08 ` Chris Wedgwood
2006-12-14 17:38 ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-12-14 17:52 ` Chris Wedgwood
2006-12-14 18:09 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-12-18 10:28 ` GPL only modules Eric W. Biederman
2006-12-14 18:15 ` GPL only modules [was Re: [GIT PATCH] more Driver core patches for 2.6.19] Eric Sandeen
2006-12-14 18:39 ` Chris Wedgwood
2006-12-14 19:42 ` Scott Preece
2006-12-14 19:34 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2006-12-15 5:28 ` GPL only modules Alexandre Oliva
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