From: "Gregory Price (Meta)" <gourry@gourry.net>
To: Joshua Hahn <joshua.hahnjy@gmail.com>
Cc: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Gregory Price <gourry@gourry.net>,
"Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)" <ljs@kernel.org>,
Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@kernel.org>,
Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
Brendan Jackman <brendan.jackman@linux.dev>,
Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
kernel-team@meta.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] mm/page_alloc: only skip kswapd nodes below their kswapd watermark
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2026 01:18:30 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <179446431092.482102.12227242887844422381.b4-reply@b4> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20261110224432.2347606-1-joshua.hahnjy@gmail.com>
On 2026-11-10 14:44 -0800, Joshua Hahn wrote:
> Commit 19c5fb83f2a4 ("mm: page_alloc: avoid kswapd thrashing due to
> NUMA restrictions") makes get_page_from_freelist() skip any node with an
> active kswapd on the first pass through the zonelist, so unrestricted
> allocations don't immediately consume the memory kswapd is freeing.
>
> But kswapd is also woken for high-order requests. With THP defrag set to
> defer, each THP fault that fails on a fragmented node wakes kswapd at
> PMD order. kswapd reclaims a batch, wakes kcompactd, and sleeps until
> the next failed fault, so it stays awake much of the time even on a node
> with plenty of free order-0 memory. This means those order-0 allocations
> get directed elsewhere.
>
> This was observed on some Meta production workloads running on 2-NUMA
> systems, where processes with a preference for node0 allocations
> continuously allocated order-0 pages on node1, despite node0 having
> hundreds of GB of free memory.
>
> Only skip a zone with an active kswapd if it is also below kswapd's
> target watermark.
>
I feel this commit message could have been simplified further.
Brevity is the soul of wit.
patch (details) skips any node with kswapd running - assuming that
this means memory is low, but kswapd is woken for other reasons (e.g.
order-N allocation failures).
This results in fallback allocations under X conditions, which leads
to xyz performance isues.
Only skip nodes with kswap running if the node is under the relevant
low-memory watermark.
(test details)
Otherwise this looks good to me. Looking forward to the watermark
cleanup afterwards - i agree the change here is a bit ugly, but
probably preferable for the backport.
Acked-by: Gregory Price (Meta) <gourry@gourry.net>
--
~Gregory
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-11-12 6:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-11-10 22:44 Joshua Hahn
2026-11-11 17:39 ` Jose A. Perez de Azpillaga
2026-11-12 6:18 ` Gregory Price (Meta) [this message]
2026-11-12 16:22 ` Zi Yan
2026-11-12 16:37 ` Johannes Weiner
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