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From: "Gregory Price (Meta)" <gourry@gourry.net>
To: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>
Cc: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	 Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>,
	 Gregory Price <gourry@gourry.net>, Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>,
	 Joshua Hahn <joshua.hahnjy@gmail.com>,
	Rakie Kim <rakie.kim@sk.com>,
	 Ying Huang <ying.huang@linux.alibaba.com>,
	 Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <ljs@kernel.org>,
	 "Liam R. Howlett" <liam@infradead.org>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@kernel.org>,
	 Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
	Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	 Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>, Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	 Shuah Khan <skhan@linuxfoundation.org>,
	 Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org,  linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] mm/mempolicy: limit shared policy ranges per inode
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2026 12:41:21 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <179467808112.482102.13365594235443107281.b4-reply@b4> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20261113-mempolicy_limit-v1-2-16688b2644dc@kernel.org>

On 2026-11-13 22:36 +0100, David Hildenbrand (Arm) wrote:
> Shared NUMA policy ranges can accumulate on an inode after its mappings
> are removed. Currently, these nodes are effectively unbounded (even though
> the allcoations are charged).
> 
> An unbounded tree can cause long rwlock hold times when replacing or
> freeing policies. Instead of trying to fix that, it sounds more like
> having many nodes is actually only a scenario for processes trying to
> cause trouble. Most use cases will probably only use a handful of them,
> not millions.
> 
> Add vm.max_shared_policy_count (inspired by vm.max_map_count), defaulting
> to 1024 ranges per inode. Reject updates with -ENOMEM if they would
> increase the count beyond the limit, taking merging, splitting etc.
> into account.
> 
> Signed-off-by: David Hildenbrand (Arm) <david@kernel.org>


This arguably breaks userspace.

A single mapper that tries to set >1024 ranges would start getting
-ENOMEMs unexpectedly with this change.

Multi-task mappers were previously unlimited, but that seems like more
of a nasty unintended corner case - not a real feature.

A single process is already limited on the number of vmas/policies based
on `max_map_count`, so it seems natural to just use max_map_count
directly, but I took a brief look at some distros and most seem to
ship a raised `max_map_count` (>1 million) by default).

I tested that and even 1 million can cause a soft lockup.

Not sure there's an easy solution here, we might have to rework the shm
policy locks.

-- 
~Gregory


  reply	other threads:[~2026-11-14 17:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-11-13 21:36 [PATCH 0/2] mm/mempolicy: shared policy limits for tmpfs/shmem/guest_memfd David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-11-13 21:36 ` [PATCH 1/2] mm/mempolicy: merge adjacent shared policy ranges David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-11-13 22:23   ` Joshua Hahn
2026-11-14 17:22   ` Gregory Price (Meta)
2026-11-13 21:36 ` [PATCH 2/2] mm/mempolicy: limit shared policy ranges per inode David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-11-14 17:41   ` Gregory Price (Meta) [this message]
2026-11-14 20:16     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-11-14 20:25       ` Gregory Price (Meta)

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