From: Chengguang Xu <cgxu519@mykernel.net>
To: "Amir Goldstein" <amir73il@gmail.com>
Cc: "Jan Kara" <jack@suse.cz>, "Miklos Szeredi" <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
"linux-fsdevel" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
"overlayfs" <linux-unionfs@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-kernel" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"ronyjin" <ronyjin@tencent.com>,
"charliecgxu" <charliecgxu@tencent.com>,
"Vivek Goyal" <vgoyal@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v5 06/10] ovl: implement overlayfs' ->write_inode operation
Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2021 10:37:15 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <17d73da701b.e571c37220081.6904057835107693340@mykernel.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOQ4uxidK-yDMZoZtoRwTZLgSTr1o2Mu2L55vJRNJDLV0-Sb1w@mail.gmail.com>
---- 在 星期三, 2021-12-01 03:04:59 Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com> 撰写 ----
> > > I was thinking about this a bit more and I don't think I buy this
> > > explanation. What I rather think is happening is that real work for syncfs
> > > (writeback_inodes_sb() and sync_inodes_sb() calls) gets offloaded to a flush
> > > worker. E.g. writeback_inodes_sb() ends up calling
> > > __writeback_inodes_sb_nr() which does:
> > >
> > > bdi_split_work_to_wbs()
> > > wb_wait_for_completion()
> > >
> > > So you don't see the work done in the times accounted to your test
> > > program. But in practice the flush worker is indeed burning 1.3s worth of
> > > CPU to scan the 1 million inode list and do nothing.
> > >
> >
> > That makes sense. However, in real container use case, the upper dir is always empty,
> > so I don't think there is meaningful difference compare to accurately marking overlay
> > inode dirty.
> >
>
> It's true the that is a very common case, but...
>
> > I'm not very familiar with other use cases of overlayfs except container, should we consider
> > other use cases? Maybe we can also ignore the cpu burden because those use cases don't
> > have density deployment like container.
> >
>
> metacopy feature was developed for the use case of a container
> that chowns all the files in the lower image.
>
> In that case, which is now also quite common, all the overlay inodes are
> upper inodes.
>
Regardless of metacopy or datacopy, that copy-up has already modified overlay inode
so initialy marking dirty to all overlay inodes which have upper inode will not be a serious
problem in this case too, right?
I guess maybe you more concern about the re-mark dirtiness on above use case.
> What about only re-mark overlay inode dirty if upper inode is dirty or is
> writeably mmapped.
> For other cases, it is easy to know when overlay inode becomes dirty?
> Didn't you already try this?
>
Yes, I've tried that approach in previous version but as Miklos pointed out in the
feedback there are a few of racy conditions.
Thanks,
Chengguang
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-12-01 2:38 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-09-23 13:08 [RFC PATCH v5 00/10] implement containerized syncfs for overlayfs Chengguang Xu
2021-09-23 13:08 ` [RFC PATCH v5 01/10] ovl: setup overlayfs' private bdi Chengguang Xu
2021-09-23 13:08 ` [RFC PATCH v5 02/10] ovl: implement ->writepages operation Chengguang Xu
2021-09-23 13:08 ` [RFC PATCH v5 03/10] ovl: implement overlayfs' ->evict_inode operation Chengguang Xu
2021-10-06 15:33 ` Miklos Szeredi
2021-10-07 6:08 ` Chengguang Xu
2021-10-07 7:43 ` Miklos Szeredi
2021-09-23 13:08 ` [RFC PATCH v5 04/10] ovl: mark overlayfs' inode dirty on modification Chengguang Xu
2021-10-07 18:43 ` Miklos Szeredi
2021-09-23 13:08 ` [RFC PATCH v5 05/10] ovl: mark overlayfs' inode dirty on shared mmap Chengguang Xu
2021-09-23 13:08 ` [RFC PATCH v5 06/10] ovl: implement overlayfs' ->write_inode operation Chengguang Xu
2021-10-07 9:01 ` Jan Kara
2021-10-07 12:26 ` Chengguang Xu
2021-10-07 14:41 ` Jan Kara
2021-10-07 14:54 ` Chengguang Xu
2021-10-07 9:23 ` Miklos Szeredi
2021-10-07 12:28 ` Chengguang Xu
2021-10-07 12:45 ` Miklos Szeredi
2021-10-07 13:09 ` Chengguang Xu
2021-10-07 13:34 ` Miklos Szeredi
2021-10-07 14:46 ` Jan Kara
2021-10-07 14:53 ` Chengguang Xu
2021-10-07 18:51 ` Miklos Szeredi
2021-10-08 13:13 ` Jan Kara
2021-11-16 2:20 ` Chengguang Xu
2021-11-16 12:35 ` Miklos Szeredi
2021-11-17 6:11 ` Chengguang Xu
2021-11-18 6:32 ` Chengguang Xu
2021-11-18 11:23 ` Jan Kara
2021-11-18 12:02 ` Chengguang Xu
2021-11-18 16:43 ` Jan Kara
2021-11-19 6:12 ` Chengguang Xu
2021-11-30 11:22 ` Jan Kara
2021-11-30 16:09 ` Chengguang Xu
2021-11-30 19:04 ` Amir Goldstein
2021-12-01 2:37 ` Chengguang Xu [this message]
2021-12-01 6:31 ` Chengguang Xu
2021-12-01 7:19 ` Amir Goldstein
2021-12-01 13:46 ` Jan Kara
2021-12-01 14:59 ` Chengguang Xu
2021-12-01 16:24 ` Chengguang Xu
2021-12-01 22:47 ` Amir Goldstein
2021-12-01 23:23 ` ovl_flush() behavior Amir Goldstein
2021-12-02 2:11 ` Chengguang Xu
2021-12-02 15:20 ` Vivek Goyal
2021-12-02 15:59 ` Amir Goldstein
2021-12-02 22:00 ` Vivek Goyal
2021-12-02 15:14 ` Vivek Goyal
2021-12-05 14:06 ` [RFC PATCH v5 06/10] ovl: implement overlayfs' ->write_inode operation Chengguang Xu
2021-12-07 5:33 ` Amir Goldstein
2022-02-05 16:09 ` Chengguang Xu
2022-02-05 16:23 ` Amir Goldstein
2021-09-23 13:08 ` [RFC PATCH v5 07/10] ovl: cache dirty overlayfs' inode Chengguang Xu
2021-10-07 11:09 ` Miklos Szeredi
2021-10-07 12:04 ` Chengguang Xu
2021-10-07 12:27 ` Miklos Szeredi
2021-09-23 13:08 ` [RFC PATCH v5 08/10] fs: export wait_sb_inodes() Chengguang Xu
2021-09-23 13:08 ` [RFC PATCH v5 09/10] fs: introduce new helper sync_fs_and_blockdev() Chengguang Xu
2021-10-19 7:15 ` Amir Goldstein
2021-11-15 11:39 ` Chengguang Xu
2021-09-23 13:08 ` [RFC PATCH v5 10/10] ovl: implement containerized syncfs for overlayfs Chengguang Xu
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