From: Swamil Jain <s-jain1@ti.com>
To: Maxime Ripard <mripard@kernel.org>
Cc: Tomi Valkeinen <tomi.valkeinen@ideasonboard.com>,
<h-shenoy@ti.com>, <devarsht@ti.com>, <vigneshr@ti.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 2/3] drm/tidss: Remove max_pclk_khz from tidss display features
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2025 15:39:43 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <17f60699-e69c-45d2-8afd-46c831638d9d@ti.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250909-noisy-elated-quetzal-07ec4e@houat>
Hi Maxime,
On 9/9/25 12:21, Maxime Ripard wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 03, 2025 at 02:08:28PM +0530, Swamil Jain wrote:
>> Hi Tomi, Maxime,
>>
>> On 8/27/25 15:19, Tomi Valkeinen wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> On 27/08/2025 12:27, Maxime Ripard wrote:
>>>> On Wed, Aug 27, 2025 at 11:49:22AM +0300, Tomi Valkeinen wrote:
>>>>> On 19/08/2025 22:21, Swamil Jain wrote:
>>>>>> From: Jayesh Choudhary <j-choudhary@ti.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> TIDSS hardware by itself does not have variable max_pclk for each VP.
>>>>>> The maximum pixel clock is determined by the limiting factor between
>>>>>> the functional clock and the PLL (parent to the VP/pixel clock).
>>>>>
>>>>> Hmm, this is actually not in the driver, is it? We're not limiting the
>>>>> pclk based on the fclk.
>>>>>
>>>>>> The limitation that has been modeled till now comes from the clock
>>>>>> (PLL can only be programmed to a particular max value). Instead of
>>>>>> putting it as a constant field in dispc_features, we can query the
>>>>>> DM to see if requested clock can be set or not and use it in
>>>>>> mode_valid().
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Replace constant "max_pclk_khz" in dispc_features with
>>>>>> max_successful_rate and max_attempted_rate, both of these in
>>>>>> tidss_device structure would be modified in runtime. In mode_valid()
>>>>>> call, check if a best frequency match for mode clock can be found or
>>>>>> not using "clk_round_rate()". Based on that, propagate
>>>>>> max_successful_rate and max_attempted_rate and query DM again only if
>>>>>> the requested mode clock is greater than max_attempted_rate. (As the
>>>>>> preferred display mode is usually the max resolution, driver ends up
>>>>>> checking the highest clock the first time itself which is used in
>>>>>> subsequent checks).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Since TIDSS display controller provides clock tolerance of 5%, we use
>>>>>> this while checking the max_successful_rate. Also, move up
>>>>>> "dispc_pclk_diff()" before it is called.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This will make the existing compatibles reusable if DSS features are
>>>>>> same across two SoCs with the only difference being the pixel clock.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Fixes: 7246e0929945 ("drm/tidss: Add OLDI bridge support")
>>>>>> Reviewed-by: Devarsh Thakkar <devarsht@ti.com>
>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Jayesh Choudhary <j-choudhary@ti.com>
>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Swamil Jain <s-jain1@ti.com>
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>> drivers/gpu/drm/tidss/tidss_dispc.c | 85 +++++++++++++----------------
>>>>>> drivers/gpu/drm/tidss/tidss_dispc.h | 1 -
>>>>>> drivers/gpu/drm/tidss/tidss_drv.h | 11 +++-
>>>>>> 3 files changed, 47 insertions(+), 50 deletions(-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> diff --git a/drivers/gpu/drm/tidss/tidss_dispc.c b/drivers/gpu/drm/tidss/tidss_dispc.c
>>>>>> index c0277fa36425..c2c0fe0d4a0f 100644
>>>>>> --- a/drivers/gpu/drm/tidss/tidss_dispc.c
>>>>>> +++ b/drivers/gpu/drm/tidss/tidss_dispc.c
>>>>>> @@ -58,10 +58,6 @@ static const u16 tidss_k2g_common_regs[DISPC_COMMON_REG_TABLE_LEN] = {
>>>>>> const struct dispc_features dispc_k2g_feats = {
>>>>>> .min_pclk_khz = 4375,
>>>>>> - .max_pclk_khz = {
>>>>>> - [DISPC_VP_DPI] = 150000,
>>>>>> - },
>>>>>> -
>>>>>> /*
>>>>>> * XXX According TRM the RGB input buffer width up to 2560 should
>>>>>> * work on 3 taps, but in practice it only works up to 1280.
>>>>>> @@ -144,11 +140,6 @@ static const u16 tidss_am65x_common_regs[DISPC_COMMON_REG_TABLE_LEN] = {
>>>>>> };
>>>>>> const struct dispc_features dispc_am65x_feats = {
>>>>>> - .max_pclk_khz = {
>>>>>> - [DISPC_VP_DPI] = 165000,
>>>>>> - [DISPC_VP_OLDI_AM65X] = 165000,
>>>>>> - },
>>>>>> -
>>>>>> .scaling = {
>>>>>> .in_width_max_5tap_rgb = 1280,
>>>>>> .in_width_max_3tap_rgb = 2560,
>>>>>> @@ -244,11 +235,6 @@ static const u16 tidss_j721e_common_regs[DISPC_COMMON_REG_TABLE_LEN] = {
>>>>>> };
>>>>>> const struct dispc_features dispc_j721e_feats = {
>>>>>> - .max_pclk_khz = {
>>>>>> - [DISPC_VP_DPI] = 170000,
>>>>>> - [DISPC_VP_INTERNAL] = 600000,
>>>>>> - },
>>>>>> -
>>>>>> .scaling = {
>>>>>> .in_width_max_5tap_rgb = 2048,
>>>>>> .in_width_max_3tap_rgb = 4096,
>>>>>> @@ -315,11 +301,6 @@ const struct dispc_features dispc_j721e_feats = {
>>>>>> };
>>>>>> const struct dispc_features dispc_am625_feats = {
>>>>>> - .max_pclk_khz = {
>>>>>> - [DISPC_VP_DPI] = 165000,
>>>>>> - [DISPC_VP_INTERNAL] = 170000,
>>>>>> - },
>>>>>> -
>>>>>> .scaling = {
>>>>>> .in_width_max_5tap_rgb = 1280,
>>>>>> .in_width_max_3tap_rgb = 2560,
>>>>>> @@ -376,15 +357,6 @@ const struct dispc_features dispc_am625_feats = {
>>>>>> };
>>>>>> const struct dispc_features dispc_am62a7_feats = {
>>>>>> - /*
>>>>>> - * if the code reaches dispc_mode_valid with VP1,
>>>>>> - * it should return MODE_BAD.
>>>>>> - */
>>>>>> - .max_pclk_khz = {
>>>>>> - [DISPC_VP_TIED_OFF] = 0,
>>>>>> - [DISPC_VP_DPI] = 165000,
>>>>>> - },
>>>>>> -
>>>>>> .scaling = {
>>>>>> .in_width_max_5tap_rgb = 1280,
>>>>>> .in_width_max_3tap_rgb = 2560,
>>>>>> @@ -441,10 +413,6 @@ const struct dispc_features dispc_am62a7_feats = {
>>>>>> };
>>>>>> const struct dispc_features dispc_am62l_feats = {
>>>>>> - .max_pclk_khz = {
>>>>>> - [DISPC_VP_DPI] = 165000,
>>>>>> - },
>>>>>> -
>>>>>> .subrev = DISPC_AM62L,
>>>>>> .common = "common",
>>>>>> @@ -1347,25 +1315,57 @@ static void dispc_vp_set_default_color(struct dispc_device *dispc,
>>>>>> DISPC_OVR_DEFAULT_COLOR2, (v >> 32) & 0xffff);
>>>>>> }
>>>>>> +/*
>>>>>> + * Calculate the percentage difference between the requested pixel clock rate
>>>>>> + * and the effective rate resulting from calculating the clock divider value.
>>>>>> + */
>>>>>> +unsigned int dispc_pclk_diff(unsigned long rate, unsigned long real_rate)
>>>>>> +{
>>>>>> + int r = rate / 100, rr = real_rate / 100;
>>>>>> +
>>>>>> + return (unsigned int)(abs(((rr - r) * 100) / r));
>>>>>> +}
>>>>>> +
>>>>>> +static int check_pixel_clock(struct dispc_device *dispc,
>>>>>> + u32 hw_videoport, unsigned long clock)
>>>>>> +{
>>>>>> + unsigned long round_clock;
>>>>>> +
>>>>>> + if (dispc->tidss->is_ext_vp_clk[hw_videoport])
>>>>>> + return 0;
>>>>>> +
>>>>>> + if (clock <= dispc->tidss->max_successful_rate[hw_videoport])
>>>>>> + return 0;
>>>>>> +
>>>>>> + if (clock < dispc->tidss->max_attempted_rate[hw_videoport])
>>>>>> + return -EINVAL;
>>>>>> +
>>>>>> + round_clock = clk_round_rate(dispc->vp_clk[hw_videoport], clock);
>>>>>> +
>>>>>> + if (dispc_pclk_diff(clock, round_clock) > 5)
>>>>>> + return -EINVAL;
>>>>>> +
>>>>>> + dispc->tidss->max_successful_rate[hw_videoport] = round_clock;
>>>>>> + dispc->tidss->max_attempted_rate[hw_videoport] = clock;
>>>>>
>>>>> I still don't think this logic is sound. This is trying to find the
>>>>> maximum clock rate, and optimize by avoiding the calls to
>>>>> clk_round_rate() if possible. That makes sense.
>>>>>
>>>>> But checking for the 5% tolerance breaks it, in my opinion. If we find
>>>>> out that the PLL can do, say, 100M, but we need pclk of 90M, the current
>>>>> maximum is still the 100M, isn't it?
>>>>
>>>> 5% is pretty large indeed. We've been using .5% in multiple drivers and
>>>> it proved to be pretty ok. I would advise you tu use it too.
>>>
>>> The 5% comes from OMAP DSS, where we had to do pixel clock with a few
>>> dividers and multipliers. The rates were quite coarse, and we ended up
>>> having quite a large tolerance.
>>>
>>> I think with tidss, we always have a PLL we control, so we should always
>>> have very exact clocks. So I'm fine with dropping it to .5%. However,
>>> this patch and series is about removing the a-bit-too-hardcoded VP clk
>>> max rate code in the driver, so I would leave everything else to another
>>> series.
>>>
>>>> It's not clear to me why avoiding a clk_round_rate() call is something
>>>> worth doing though?
>>>
>>> Hard to say if it's worth doing, someone should make some perf tests.
>>> However, afaik, the calls do go to the firmware, so it involves
>>> inter-processor calls. On OMAP DSS checking the clock rates was slow, as
>>> it involved lots of iterating with dividers and multipliers. Perhaps
>>> it's much faster here.
>>>
>>>> Even caching the maximum rate you have been able to reach before is
>>>> pretty fragile: if the PLL changes its rate, or if a sibling clock has
>>>> set some limits on what the PLL can do, your maximum isn't relevant
>>>> anymore.
>>>
>>> You're right, although afaik it should not happen with TI's SoCs. We
>>> would be in trouble anyway if that were the case (e.g. someone starts
>>> the camera, and suddenly we can't support 1080p anymore).
>>>
>>>> in other words, what's wrong with simply calling clk_round_rate() and
>>>> checking if it's within a .5% deviation?
>>>
>>> This started with discussions how to replace the hardcoded max VP clock
>>> rate (used to quickly weed out impossible rates), which in reality was
>>> actually PLL max clock rate. We don't know the PLL max rate, and can't
>>> query it, so this approach was taken.
>>>
>>>> At the very least, this should be explained in comments or the commit
>>>> message.
>>>
>>> I agree.
>>>
>>> Swamil, can you do some perf tests with clk_round_rate()? If it's fast
>>> (enough), it will simplify the driver.
>>
>> Average execution time is around 112 us.
>> Trace file including the execution time for clk_round_rate():
>> https://gist.github.com/swamiljain/2abe86982cdeba1d69223d2d525e0cb6
>> It is better to reduce calls to clk_round_rate().
>
> But why?
>
> 100us is ridiculously small in that context. Even assuming you have like
> 10 modes, we're in the millisecond order of magnitude. Assuming no
> contention on the bus, it's about the same than reading the EDIDs.
> Hotplug pulses in HDMI take 100 *milli* seconds. Sync time is in
> seconds.
>
> Unless you have a real world benchmark that shows that it's too slow,
> you shouldn't care. And if you do have that benchmark, it should be
> fixed for all drivers.
Used ftrace to get execution time for dispc_vp_mode_valid(), below are
the stats:
With caching logic:
Function Hit Time Avg
-------- --- ---- --------
dispc_vp_mode_valid 30 107.870 us 3.595 us
Without caching logic:
Function Hit Time Avg
-------- --- ---- --------
dispc_vp_mode_valid 30 3531.215 us 117.707 us
>
> Either way, you don't need your caching logic in the tidss driver.
>
Ack, will not use caching logic, can provide a link to the caching logic
patch in commit msg if someone is concerned about optimization. Will
respin a v6 without caching logic.
Regards,
Swamil> Maxime
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-09-10 10:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-08-19 19:21 [PATCH v5 0/3] Decouple max_pclk check from constant display feats Swamil Jain
2025-08-19 19:21 ` [PATCH v5 1/3] drm/tidss: oldi: Add property to identify OLDI supported VP Swamil Jain
2025-08-19 19:21 ` [PATCH v5 2/3] drm/tidss: Remove max_pclk_khz from tidss display features Swamil Jain
2025-08-27 8:49 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2025-08-27 9:27 ` Maxime Ripard
2025-08-27 9:49 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2025-08-27 10:34 ` Maxime Ripard
2025-08-27 10:39 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2025-08-27 11:25 ` Maxime Ripard
2025-08-29 3:37 ` Swamil Jain
2025-09-03 8:38 ` Swamil Jain
2025-09-03 9:31 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2025-09-03 9:43 ` Swamil Jain
2025-09-09 6:51 ` Maxime Ripard
2025-09-10 10:09 ` Swamil Jain [this message]
2025-08-29 3:35 ` Swamil Jain
2025-08-28 16:44 ` Swamil Jain
2025-08-19 19:21 ` [PATCH v5 3/3] drm/tidss: oldi: Add atomic_check hook for oldi bridge Swamil Jain
2025-08-27 9:05 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2025-08-29 3:50 ` Swamil Jain
2025-09-01 8:52 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2025-09-01 8:59 ` Swamil Jain
2025-08-21 12:09 ` [PATCH v5 0/3] Decouple max_pclk check from constant display feats Michael Walle
2025-08-28 15:59 ` Swamil Jain
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