From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1758590AbXGDDXj (ORCPT ); Tue, 3 Jul 2007 23:23:39 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1755515AbXGDDXc (ORCPT ); Tue, 3 Jul 2007 23:23:32 -0400 Received: from ozlabs.org ([203.10.76.45]:60438 "EHLO ozlabs.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1754973AbXGDDXb (ORCPT ); Tue, 3 Jul 2007 23:23:31 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <18058.56956.595143.15424@cargo.ozlabs.ibm.com> Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 09:40:44 +1000 From: Paul Mackerras To: Oliver Neukum Cc: Benjamin Herrenschmidt , mjg59@srcf.ucam.org, linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Miklos Szeredi Subject: Re: [linux-pm] Re: [PATCH] Remove process freezer from suspend to RAM pathway In-Reply-To: <200707031355.51028.oliver@neukum.org> References: <20070703042916.GA17240@srcf.ucam.org> <200707031307.41366.oliver@neukum.org> <1183463053.10386.112.camel@localhost.localdomain> <200707031355.51028.oliver@neukum.org> X-Mailer: VM 7.19 under Emacs 21.4.1 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Oliver Neukum writes: > That's why we have the problem of freezing the kernel threads or not. That problem is a symptom of the deeper conceptual problem, as is the problem with FUSE. > You want to have all that pain for fuse? I'd certainly rather get the drivers right, and maybe have an occasional deadlock if I miss something, than have a GUARANTEED deadlock every time I suspend with a FUSE filesystem mounted (which is pretty much every time, since I use encfs regularly). Paul.