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From: Arend van Spriel <aspriel@gmail.com>
To: "Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Manish Mandlik <mmandlik@google.com>
Cc: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>, <marcel@holtmann.org>,
	<luiz.dentz@gmail.com>, Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>, <linux-bluetooth@vger.kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"Rafael J . Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	<chromeos-bluetooth-upstreaming@chromium.org>,
	Won Chung <wonchung@google.com>,
	"Abhishek Pandit-Subedi" <abhishekpandit@chromium.org>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 1/5] sysfs: Add attribute info for /sys/devices/.../coredump_disabled
Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2022 11:39:15 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <18296926db8.279b.9696ff82abe5fb6502268bdc3b0467d4@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YvXusxxBZ+cHvzqz@kroah.com>

On August 12, 2022 8:09:59 AM Greg Kroah-Hartman 
<gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> wrote:

> On Thu, Aug 11, 2022 at 04:21:54PM -0700, Manish Mandlik wrote:
>> On Wed, Aug 10, 2022 at 9:21 AM Greg Kroah-Hartman <
>> gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 10, 2022 at 06:03:37PM +0200, Johannes Berg wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 2022-08-10 at 09:00 -0700, Manish Mandlik wrote:
>>>>> This patch adds the specification for
>>> /sys/devices/.../coredump_disabled
>>>>> attribute which allows the userspace to enable/disable devcoredump for
>>> a
>>>>> particular device and drivers can use it to enable/disable
>>> functionality
>>>>> accordingly. It is available when the CONFIG_DEV_COREDUMP is enabled
>>> and
>>>>> driver has implemented the .coredump() callback.
>>>>
>>>> It would be nice to say _why_? What problem does this solve? You could
>>>> just create the dump and discard it, instead, for example?
>>>
>>> Agreed, I do not understand the need for this at all.
>>
>> The existing /sys/class/devcoredump/disabled (devcd) switch has two
>> limitations - it disables dev_coredump for everyone who's using it;
>
> Which is good and is the design of the thing.
>
>> and
>> drivers don't have visibility if devcd is disabled or not, so, the
>> dev_coredump API simply lets drivers collect the coredump from a device but
>> then later discards it if devcd is disabled.
>
> Why would a driver care?
>
>> Now that there are more subsystems using the base dev_coredump API, having
>> a granular control will make it easier to selectively disable dev_coredump
>> only for a particular device. For ChromeOS, this is useful to allow drivers
>> to develop coredump functionality and deploy it without affecting other
>> drivers with stable devcoredump implementations (example, we've had some
>> devcoredumps that take 12s to run and we only want to enable it on test
>> builds because it has lots of PII). The drivers can use this flag to
>> refrain from collecting or triggering coredump when undesirable.
>
> This feels odd.  You have various out-of-tree drivers that take too long
> when they crash to make a dump and it causes some unknown issue
> elsewhere?

If you have drivers taking 12s for coredump you could/should consider doing 
it asynchronous, eg. schedule a worker for it. The coredump callback has 
void return type so it would be fairly easy.

Regards,
Arend



  reply	other threads:[~2022-08-13  9:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-08-10 16:00 Manish Mandlik
2022-08-10 16:00 ` [PATCH v5 2/5] devcoredump: Add per device sysfs entry to enable/disable coredump Manish Mandlik
2022-08-10 16:00 ` [PATCH v5 3/5] Bluetooth: Add support for hci devcoredump Manish Mandlik
2022-08-10 16:19   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-08-12 18:59   ` kernel test robot
2022-08-12 19:19   ` kernel test robot
2022-08-10 16:00 ` [PATCH v5 4/5] Bluetooth: btusb: Add btusb devcoredump support Manish Mandlik
2022-08-10 16:20   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-08-10 16:00 ` [PATCH v5 5/5] Bluetooth: btintel: Add Intel " Manish Mandlik
2022-08-10 16:21   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-08-10 16:03 ` [PATCH v5 1/5] sysfs: Add attribute info for /sys/devices/.../coredump_disabled Johannes Berg
2022-08-10 16:21   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
     [not found]     ` <CAGPPCLAV=mnMcteCnqFT5zdbWdZuFQRv6-oxC3qAnLh8_8H61Q@mail.gmail.com>
2022-08-12  6:09       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-08-13  9:39         ` Arend van Spriel [this message]
2022-08-10 16:22 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman

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