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From: Mikael Pettersson <mikpe@it.uu.se>
To: Suresh Siddha <suresh.b.siddha@intel.com>
Cc: Mikael Pettersson <mikpe@it.uu.se>,
	mingo@elte.hu, hpa@zytor.com, tglx@linutronix.de,
	torvalds@linux-foundation.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	andi@firstfloor.org, roland@redhat.com, drepper@redhat.com,
	Hongjiu.lu@intel.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	arjan@linux.intel.com, rmk+lkml@arm.linux.org.uk, dan@debian.org,
	asit.k.mallick@intel.com
Subject: Re: [RFC] x86: xsave/xrstor support, ucontext_t extensions
Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 10:58:20 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <18482.37548.885708.24670@harpo.it.uu.se> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080520015723.GD30034@linux-os.sc.intel.com>

Suresh Siddha writes:
 > On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 04:52:01PM +0200, Mikael Pettersson wrote:
 > > > But we can
 > > >use some what similar magic, if the fxsave/fxrstor give away
 > > >some of the fields at the end of fxsave image (today it is reserved
 > > >and ignored during fxsave/fxrstor) for software use.
 > > >We can then use these fields at the end of fpstate, to indicate the presence of
 > > >xstate. But this requires some architecture changes like giving
 > > >away this space for SW use. We can take this to architects and
 > > >see what they think.
 > > 
 > > If the HW doesn't store anything valuable there, we could store
 > > SW flags/cookies there on signal delivery, and clear them before
 > > fxrstor (unless the HW is known to ignore those fields).
 > > But it depends on how forgiving the HW is.
 > 
 > Ok. CPU folks are planning to make some of the bytes at the end of fxsave
 > image, SW usable.

Nice.

 > We can use some of these fields, to represent the extended state
 > presence with a cookie, save area size, mask of the state
 > stored. If needed, we can include the start address of the fpstate pointer
 > (also as part of the cookie), so that we can detect the situation,
 > where apps are just memcopying sizeof(struct _fpstate) from the fpstate
 > pointer (but not aware of the extended state).

I use a similar technique to detect user-space mangling
of ucontexts on Solaris.

 > we don't need any ucontext_t extensions any more and just
 > use the fpstate pointer to indicate the extended state aswell, right?

Yes, the old magic distinguishes x87-only from x87+fxsr, the new magic
distinguishes fxsr from xsave.

 > In addition, we need to make sure that for 32bit non-rt sigframes, we
 > don't modify the extramask[] offset.

Thanks,

/Mikael

  reply	other threads:[~2008-05-20  8:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-05-13  1:10 Suresh Siddha
2008-05-16 13:26 ` Mikael Pettersson
2008-05-18  1:34   ` Suresh Siddha
2008-05-19 14:52     ` Mikael Pettersson
2008-05-19 15:04       ` Andi Kleen
2008-05-19 16:29       ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-05-19 16:57         ` Suresh Siddha
2008-05-19 17:45           ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-05-20  1:57       ` Suresh Siddha
2008-05-20  8:58         ` Mikael Pettersson [this message]
2008-05-20 10:01         ` Andi Kleen
2008-05-20 13:19           ` Mikael Pettersson
2008-05-20 14:58             ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-05-20 15:20               ` Mikael Pettersson
2008-05-20 17:53                 ` Suresh Siddha
2008-05-20 17:59                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-05-22  0:28                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-05-22  0:53                     ` Roland McGrath
2008-05-22  1:38                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-05-22  6:40                         ` Roland McGrath
2008-05-22  7:18                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-05-22  8:49                       ` Mikael Pettersson
2008-05-22  8:57                     ` Mikael Pettersson
2008-05-22 20:56                       ` Suresh Siddha
2008-05-22 21:02                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-05-22 21:29                           ` Suresh Siddha
2008-05-22 21:34                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-05-22 22:22                               ` Mikael Pettersson
2008-05-23  1:48                               ` Suresh Siddha
2008-05-23  2:12                                 ` Roland McGrath
2008-05-23  2:49                                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-05-23 18:09                                     ` Suresh Siddha
2008-06-06  0:28                                       ` x86: xsave/xrstor support; " H. Peter Anvin
2008-06-06 20:14                                         ` Suresh Siddha
2008-06-06 23:03                                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-05-23  2:45                                 ` [RFC] x86: xsave/xrstor support, " H. Peter Anvin
2008-05-23 11:46                                   ` Mikael Pettersson
2008-05-23 12:11                                     ` Andi Kleen
2008-05-22 21:32                           ` Chris Wright
2008-05-22 22:15                             ` Mikael Pettersson
2008-05-22 22:29                               ` Chris Wright
2008-05-23  0:32                                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-05-23  0:44                                   ` Chris Wright
2008-05-22 22:36                           ` Mikael Pettersson
2008-05-23  0:33                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-05-23  0:42                               ` Suresh Siddha
2008-05-23  1:33                                 ` Roland McGrath
2008-05-23 16:57                                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-05-23 17:50                                     ` Suresh Siddha
2008-05-23  2:27                                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-05-20 17:57                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-05-20 14:55           ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-05-20 15:03             ` Andi Kleen
2008-05-20 20:10               ` Roland McGrath
2008-05-22  0:05                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-05-22  0:47                   ` Roland McGrath
2008-05-22  8:14                     ` Andi Kleen

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