From: Milian Wolff <milian.wolff@kdab.com>
To: Taeung Song <treeze.taeung@gmail.com>
Cc: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@intel.com>,
Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>, David Ahern <dsahern@gmail.com>,
Jin Yao <yao.jin@linux.intel.com>, Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com>,
Kim Phillips <kim.phillips@arm.com>,
Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>,
Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>,
Wang Nan <wangnan0@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH/RFC 0/4] perf annotate: Add --source-only option and the new source code TUI view
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2017 18:32:49 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1850968.73fxbRD0Hc@milian-kdab2> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c99925a7-6369-d4d6-5227-3b39f5aca8ed@gmail.com>
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On Wednesday, June 28, 2017 6:27:34 PM CEST Taeung Song wrote:
> On 06/28/2017 06:53 PM, Milian Wolff wrote:
> > On Wednesday, June 28, 2017 5:18:08 AM CEST Taeung Song wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> The --source-only option and new source code TUI view can show
> >> the result of performance analysis based on full source code per
> >> symbol(function). (Namhyung Kim told me this idea and it was also
> >> requested
> >> by others some time ago..)
> >>
> >> If someone wants to see the cause, he/she will need to dig into the asm.
> >> But before that, looking at the source level can give a hint or clue
> >> for the problem.
> >>
> >> For example, if target symbol is 'hex2u64' of util/util.c,
> >> the output is like below.
> >>
> >> $ perf annotate --source-only --stdio -s hex2u64
> >>
> >> Percent | Source code of util.c for cycles:ppp (42 samples)
> >>
> >> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >> 0.00 : 354 * While we find nice hex chars, build a long_val.
> >> 0.00 : 355 * Return number of chars processed.
> >> 0.00 : 356 */
> >> 0.00 : 357 int hex2u64(const char *ptr, u64 *long_val)
> >> 2.38 : 358 {
> >> 2.38 : 359 const char *p = ptr;
> >> 0.00 : 360 *long_val = 0;
> >> 0.00 : 361
> >>
> >> 30.95 : 362 while (*p) {
> >> 23.81 : 363 const int hex_val = hex(*p);
> >>
> >> 0.00 : 364
> >>
> >> 14.29 : 365 if (hex_val < 0)
> >>
> >> 0.00 : 366 break;
> >> 0.00 : 367
> >>
> >> 26.19 : 368 *long_val = (*long_val << 4) | hex_val;
> >>
> >> 0.00 : 369 p++;
> >> 0.00 : 370 }
> >> 0.00 : 371
> >> 0.00 : 372 return p - ptr;
> >> 0.00 : 373 }
> >>
> >> And I added many perf developers into Cc: because I want to listen to
> >> your
> >> opinions about this new feature, if you don't mind.
> >>
> >> If you give some feedback, I'd appreciate it! :)
> >
> > Thanks Taeung,
> >
> > I requested this feature some time ago and it's really cool to see someone
> > step up and implement it - much appreciated!
>
> Thank you so much, Milian !! :)
>
> > I just tested it out on my pet-example that leverages C++ instead of C:
> >
> > ~~~~~
> > #include <complex>
> > #include <cmath>
> > #include <random>
> > #include <iostream>
> >
> > using namespace std;
> >
> > int main()
> > {
> >
> > uniform_real_distribution<double> uniform(-1E5, 1E5);
> > default_random_engine engine;
> > double s = 0;
> > for (int i = 0; i < 10000000; ++i) {
> >
> > s += norm(complex<double>(uniform(engine), uniform(engine)));
> >
> > }
> > cout << s << '\n';
> > return 0;
> >
> > }
> > ~~~~~
> >
> > Compile it with:
> >
> > g++ -O2 -g -std=c++11 test.cpp -o test
> >
> > Then record it with perf:
> >
> > perf record --call-graph dwarf ./test
> >
> > Then analyse it with `perf report`. You'll see one entry for main with
> > something like:
> >
> > + 100.00% 39.69% cpp-inlining cpp-inlining [.] main
> >
> > Select it and annotate it, then switch to your new source-only view:
> >
> > main test.cpp
> >
> > │ 30
> > │ 31 using namespace std;
> > │ 32
> > │ 33 int main()
> > │+ 34 {
> > │ 35 uniform_real_distribution<double> uniform(-1E5, 1E5);
> > │ 36 default_random_engine engine;
> > │+ 37 double s = 0;
> > │+ 38 for (int i = 0; i < 10000000; ++i) {
> >
> > 4.88 │+ 39 s += norm(complex<double>(uniform(engine),
> >
> > uniform(engine)));
> >
> > │ 40 }
> > │ 41 cout << s << '\n';
> > │ 42 return 0;
> > │+ 43 }
> >
> > Note: the line numbers are off b/c my file contains a file-header on-top.
> > Ignore that.
> >
> > Note2: There is no column header shown, so it's unclear what the first
> > column represents.
> >
> > Note 3: report showed 39.69% self cost in main, 100.00% inclusive.
> > annotate
> > shows 4.88... What is that?
> >
> > What this shows, is that it's extremely important to visualize inclusive
> > cost _and_ self cost in this view. Additionally, we need to account for
> > inlining. Right now, we only see the self cost that is directly within
> > main, I suspect. For C++ this is usually very misleading, and basically
> > makes the annotate view completely useless for application-level
> > profiling. If a second column would be added with the inclusive cost with
> > the ability to drill down, then I could easily see myself using this
> > view.
> >
> > I would appreciate if you could take this into account.
> >
> > Thanks a lot
>
> Sure, I got it.
> I'll investigate this weird case and recheck this patchset based on your
> comments,
> and then I'll reply again. :)
Cool, I'm happy to test this. Note though that this is not really a "weird
case" for a C++ developer. It's rather the norm of what we have to deal
with...
Cheers
--
Milian Wolff | milian.wolff@kdab.com | Senior Software Engineer
KDAB (Deutschland) GmbH&Co KG, a KDAB Group company
Tel: +49-30-521325470
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-06-28 16:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-06-28 3:18 Taeung Song
2017-06-28 3:26 ` Taeung Song
2017-06-28 9:53 ` Milian Wolff
2017-06-28 16:27 ` Taeung Song
2017-06-28 16:32 ` Milian Wolff [this message]
2017-06-29 7:11 ` Namhyung Kim
2017-06-30 7:14 ` Taeung Song
2017-06-30 16:21 ` Taeung Song
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