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From: Mikael Pettersson <mikpe@it.uu.se>
To: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@suse.de>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 06/60] sysfs: clarify SYSFS_DEPRECATED help text
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 10:21:35 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <18788.29727.163564.90030@harpo.it.uu.se> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1231279939-32728-6-git-send-email-gregkh@suse.de>

Greg Kroah-Hartman writes:
 > From: Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>
 > 
 > This should make the help text of SYSFS_DEPRECATED more clear, that this
 > is _not_ about (what some people think it is) suppressing a few symlinks
 > and variables, but a different sysfs _layout_ with new features.
 > 
 > Signed-off-by: Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>
 > Signed-off-by: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@suse.de>
 > ---
 >  init/Kconfig |   44 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++-----------------
 >  1 files changed, 27 insertions(+), 17 deletions(-)
 > 
 > diff --git a/init/Kconfig b/init/Kconfig
 > index 52847ee..d9d3dba 100644
 > --- a/init/Kconfig
 > +++ b/init/Kconfig
 > @@ -423,27 +423,37 @@ config SYSFS_DEPRECATED
 >  	bool
 >  
 >  config SYSFS_DEPRECATED_V2
 > -	bool "Create deprecated sysfs files"
 > +	bool "Create deprecated sysfs layout for older userspace tools"
 >  	depends on SYSFS
 >  	default y
 >  	select SYSFS_DEPRECATED
 >  	help
 > -	  This option creates deprecated symlinks such as the
 > -	  "device"-link, the <subsystem>:<name>-link, and the
 > -	  "bus"-link. It may also add deprecated key in the
 > -	  uevent environment.
 > -	  None of these features or values should be used today, as
 > -	  they export driver core implementation details to userspace
 > -	  or export properties which can't be kept stable across kernel
 > -	  releases.
 > -
 > -	  If enabled, this option will also move any device structures
 > -	  that belong to a class, back into the /sys/class hierarchy, in
 > -	  order to support older versions of udev and some userspace
 > -	  programs.
 > -
 > -	  If you are using a distro with the most recent userspace
 > -	  packages, it should be safe to say N here.
 > +	  This option switches the layout of sysfs to the deprecated
 > +	  version.
 > +
 > +	  The current sysfs layout features a unified device tree at
 > +	  /sys/devices/, which is able to express a hierarchy between
 > +	  class devices. If the deprecated option is set to Y, the
 > +	  unified device tree is split into a bus device tree at
 > +	  /sys/devices/ and several individual class device trees at
 > +	  /sys/class/. The class and bus devices will be connected by
 > +	  "<subsystem>:<name>" and the "device" links. The "block"
 > +	  class devices, will not show up in /sys/class/block/. Some
 > +	  subsystems will suppress the creation of some devices which
 > +	  depend on the unified device tree.
 > +
 > +	  This option is not a pure compatibility option that can
 > +	  be safely enabled on newer distributions. It will change the
 > +	  layout of sysfs to the non-extensible deprecated version,
 > +	  and disable some features, which can not be exported without
 > +	  confusing older userspace tools. Since 2007/2008 all major
 > +	  distributions do not enable this option, and ship no tools which
 > +	  depend on the deprecated layout or this option.
 > +
 > +	  If you are using a new kernel on an older distribution, or use
 > +	  older userspace tools, you might need to say Y here. Do not say Y,
 > +	  if the original kernel, that came with your distribution, has
 > +	  this option set to N.

Instead of making vague references to "older" tools, could someone
please make a list of the major tools that depend on sysfs, and the
minimal/oldest versions needed for the non-deprecated layout?

/Mikael

  reply	other threads:[~2009-01-07  9:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-01-06 22:11 [GIT PATCH] driver core patches for your 2.6-git tree Greg KH
2009-01-06 22:11 ` [PATCH 01/60] PM: Simplify the new suspend/hibernation framework for devices Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-01-06 22:11 ` [PATCH 02/60] Fix misspellings in pm.h macros Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-01-06 22:11 ` [PATCH 03/60] driver core: Rearrange struct device for better packing Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-01-06 22:11 ` [PATCH 04/60] driver core: Remove completion from struct klist_node Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-01-06 22:11 ` [PATCH 05/60] driver core: struct device - replace bus_id with dev_name(), dev_set_name() Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-01-06 22:11 ` [PATCH 06/60] sysfs: clarify SYSFS_DEPRECATED help text Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-01-07  9:21   ` Mikael Pettersson [this message]
2009-01-07 19:38     ` Greg KH
2009-01-06 22:11 ` [PATCH 07/60] uevent: don't pass envp_ext[] as format string in kobject_uevent_env() Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-01-06 22:11 ` [PATCH 08/60] kobject: return the result of uevent sending by netlink Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-01-06 22:11 ` [PATCH 09/60] kernel/ksysfs.c:fix dependence on CONFIG_NET Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-01-06 22:11 ` [PATCH 10/60] PCI: Rework default handling of suspend and resume Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-01-06 22:11 ` [PATCH 11/60] kobject: Make Documentation/kobject.txt a little more coherent Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-01-06 22:11 ` [PATCH 12/60] dynamic_printk: reduce one level of indentation Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-01-06 22:11 ` [PATCH 13/60] driver core: create a private portion of struct device Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-01-06 22:11 ` [PATCH 14/60] driver core: move klist_children into private structure Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-01-06 22:11 ` [PATCH 15/60] driver core: move knode_driver " Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-01-06 22:11 ` [PATCH 16/60] driver core: move knode_bus " Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-01-06 22:11 ` [PATCH 17/60] Make DEBUG take precedence over DYNAMIC_PRINTK_DEBUG Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-01-06 22:11 ` [PATCH 18/60] Driver core: move the bus notifier call points Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-01-06 22:11 ` [PATCH 19/60] driver core:fix duplicate removing driver link in __device_release_driver Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-01-06 22:11 ` [PATCH 20/60] driver core: add root_device_register() Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-01-06 22:11 ` [PATCH 21/60] virtio: do not statically allocate root device Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-01-06 22:11 ` [PATCH 22/60] lguest: " Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-01-06 22:11 ` [PATCH 23/60] s390: remove s390_root_dev_*() Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-01-06 22:11 ` [PATCH 24/60] xen: struct device - replace bus_id with dev_name(), dev_set_name() Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-01-06 22:11 ` [PATCH 25/60] w1: " Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-01-06 22:11 ` [PATCH 26/60] video: " Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-01-06 22:11 ` [PATCH 27/60] tifm: " Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-01-06 22:11 ` [PATCH 28/60] thermal: " Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-01-06 22:11 ` [PATCH 29/60] swiotlb: " Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-01-06 22:11 ` [PATCH 30/60] spi: " Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-01-06 22:11 ` [PATCH 31/60] SGI: " Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-01-06 23:03   ` Jack Steiner
2009-01-06 22:11 ` [PATCH 32/60] serial: " Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-01-06 22:11 ` [PATCH 33/60] power-supply: " Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-01-06 22:11 ` [PATCH 34/60] pnp: " Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-01-06 22:11 ` [PATCH 35/60] mwave: " Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-01-06 22:11 ` [PATCH 36/60] mtd: " Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-01-06 22:11 ` [PATCH 37/60] mips: " Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-01-06 22:11 ` [PATCH 38/60] memstick: " Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-01-06 22:11 ` [PATCH 39/60] macintosh: " Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-01-06 22:11 ` [PATCH 40/60] pm: " Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-01-06 22:12 ` [PATCH 41/60] ISDN: " Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-01-06 22:12 ` [PATCH 42/60] infiniband: " Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-01-06 22:12 ` [PATCH 43/60] i7300_idle: " Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-01-06 22:12 ` [PATCH 44/60] IA64: " Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-01-06 22:12 ` [PATCH 45/60] i2o: " Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-01-06 22:12 ` [PATCH 46/60] hwmon: " Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-01-06 22:12 ` [PATCH 47/60] gpu: " Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-01-06 22:12 ` [PATCH 48/60] gpio: " Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-01-06 22:12 ` [PATCH 49/60] gadget: " Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-01-06 22:12 ` [PATCH 50/60] dmi: " Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-01-06 22:12 ` [PATCH 51/60] chris: " Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-01-06 22:12 ` [PATCH 52/60] block: " Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-01-06 22:12 ` [PATCH 53/60] avr: " Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-01-07  8:54   ` Haavard Skinnemoen
2009-01-07 19:36     ` Greg KH
2009-01-06 22:12 ` [PATCH 54/60] libata: " Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-01-06 22:12 ` [PATCH 55/60] arm: " Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-01-06 22:12 ` [PATCH 56/60] UIO: use pci_ioremap_bar() in drivers/uio Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-01-06 22:12 ` [PATCH 57/60] UIO: uio_pdrv_genirq: allow custom irq_flags Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-01-06 22:12 ` [PATCH 58/60] UIO: Pass information about ioports to userspace (V2) Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-01-06 22:12 ` [PATCH 59/60] UIO: Documentation for UIO ioport info handling Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-01-06 22:12 ` [PATCH 60/60] uio: make uio_info's name and version const Greg Kroah-Hartman
2009-01-06 23:23 ` [GIT PATCH] driver core patches for your 2.6-git tree Hans J. Koch
2009-01-07  0:36   ` Greg KH
2009-01-07 11:33 ` [PATCH 41/60] ISDN: struct device - replace bus_id with dev_name(), dev_set_name() Karsten Keil

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