From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1756142AbZJFDol (ORCPT ); Mon, 5 Oct 2009 23:44:41 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1756045AbZJFDok (ORCPT ); Mon, 5 Oct 2009 23:44:40 -0400 Received: from lennier.cc.vt.edu ([198.82.162.213]:42821 "EHLO lennier.cc.vt.edu" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1754381AbZJFDoj (ORCPT ); Mon, 5 Oct 2009 23:44:39 -0400 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.7.2 01/07/2005 with nmh-1.2 To: Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de (Joerg Schilling) Cc: shawn.starr@rogers.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PROBLEM][2.6.31.1] - Cannot burn DVDs - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-111D In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 06 Oct 2009 00:15:48 +0200." <4aca7014.bWkj1S1Z6N2kt4dr%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> From: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu References: <4ac9d477.7gleZfWVJq3++UDn%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> <172428.1254779700@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <4aca7014.bWkj1S1Z6N2kt4dr%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_1254800635_3393P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 23:43:55 -0400 Message-ID: <188185.1254800635@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> X-Mirapoint-Received-SPF: 128.173.35.168 turing-police.cc.vt.edu Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu 2 pass X-Mirapoint-IP-Reputation: reputation=neutral-1, source=Fixed, refid=n/a, actions=MAILHURDLE SPF TAG X-Junkmail-Info: (0) X-Junkmail-Status: score=10/50, host=dagger.cc.vt.edu X-Junkmail-SD-Raw: score=unknown, refid=str=0001.0A020202.4ACABCFC.0152,ss=1,fgs=0, ip=0.0.0.0, so=2009-07-29 21:33:33, dmn=2009-09-10 00:05:08, mode=multiengine X-Junkmail-IWF: false Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org --==_Exmh_1254800635_3393P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 06 Oct 2009 00:15:48 +0200, Joerg Schilling said: > The fork did see= =20 > some speudo activity in the time between september 2006 and May 6th 200= 7 but it > is dead since then. http://cdrkit.org/releases/ says differently: =5B =5D cdrkit-1.1.3.tar.gz 26-Mar-2007 20:38 1.4M =5B =5D cdrkit-1.1.4.tgz 01-Apr-2007 20:12 1.4M =5B =5D cdrkit-1.1.5.1.tar.gz 21-Apr-2007 09:54 1.3M =5B =5D cdrkit-1.1.5.tar.gz 21-Apr-2007 09:24 1.3M =5B =5D cdrkit-1.1.6.tar.gz 06-May-2007 15:44 1.3M =5B =5D cdrkit-1.1.7.1.tar.gz 17-Mar-2008 21:47 1.4M =5B =5D cdrkit-1.1.8.tar.gz 25-May-2008 23:02 1.4M =5B =5D cdrkit-1.1.9.tar.gz 26-Oct-2008 23:17 1.4M Slow-moving maybe, but hardly =22dead=22.=20 > The fork is a problem caused by a hostile packetizer, see: > http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/linux-dist.html Which says: =22Although there is no =22project=22 activity on the =22fork=22 anymore = since more than 28 months (which is more than three times of the speudo activity period),= there are still people who spread incorrect claims on both the original project= and the fork. Please help the free original project by correcting these incor= rect claims.=22 Unfortunately, =22there are still people who spread incorrect claims=22 s= eems to include one Joerg Schilling. Please fix your incorrect =2228 months=22 cl= aim, and all similar issues. It will help your original project's credibility. It also says: =22In all programs of the fork that send SCSI commands, you may be unable= to access any of the CD/DVD/Blu-Ray drives at all if you are on Linux-2.6.8.= 1 or later. This is due to a missing workaround for the Linux kernel interface= change that happened with Linux-2.6.8.1.=22 If this is the SCSI command filtering that was cleared up in 2.6.12, you probably owe it to users to point out that little detail. 2.6.12 is over= 4 years ago. Given that when the fork happened, 2.6.17 was already current= , I could see why they didn't forward-port the fix for an issue that was only= a problem then if your kernel was already more than 2 years old, and instea= d just put in doc/plattforms/README.linux: - Linux kernel versions between 2.6.8 and 2.6.11 are known to have invas= ive SCSI command filtering which makes the use of wodim almost inpossible = or complicated for non-root users. Avoid those kernel versions, unless th= ey have been patched to disable that filtering. So this claim, although possibly technically correct, is vastly misleadin= g, especially 4 years later. > You can help: Ask your Linux distributor why he distributes an illegal = and=20 > buggy fork instead of the legal original software=21 Apparently it's distributed because their legal team doesn't think it's a= n illegal fork, and it's still buggy because after you relicensed to CDDL, = they felt they couldn't backport your fixes to the original GPL code. --==_Exmh_1254800635_3393P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 iD8DBQFKyrz7cC3lWbTT17ARAhCaAJ9+AE7fkPhgUuqSZDdgu1GsAsyM1wCg+zSa MQefsS2ikWs+ntxtd5dZaoQ= =0wIR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_1254800635_3393P--