From: Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>
To: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH/RFC 2/2] perfcounters: add an mmap method to allow userspace to read hardware counters
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 19:27:33 +1100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <18879.24309.827081.959346@cargo.ozlabs.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1237275515.5189.71.camel@laptop>
Peter Zijlstra writes:
> While I think mmap'ed counters is a great idea, I really dont like this
> patch. It adds a second output format unrelated to the regular output
> format, and it doesn't appear to honor the regular output rules either.
> PERF_RECORD_GROUP thingies won't work for example.
>
> Nor is there any kind of queuing, one might want to have multiple events
> in the mmap buffer..
I think you have misunderstood. This is not about sampling counters
*at all*. This is about simple counting counters.
On powerpc, userspace can read the hardware counters directly. This
stuff lets a program that is counting hardware events on itself do
that and translate the result into a full 64-bit value. The
information the program needs in order to do this is (a) which
hardware counter (if any) has been assigned to this particular
perf_counter and (b) what the offset between the hardware counter
value and the full 64-bit perf_counter value is. That, plus a
seqlock-style lock, is what's in the mmapped page.
> I was planning to do this after cleaning up the normal output bits, as
> our current output stuff is a mess:
> - its spread out over arch code (seems daft to me, we should all output
> the same)
> - its useless for pretty much anything but the two apps we currently
> have
>
> In particular, it lacks the tid information for sampled data I hinted to
> in the previous email.
Ingo has talked about reusing some of the tracing infrastructure for
reporting perf_counter events to userspace. That sounds like an
excellent idea to me, and that is why I didn't bother with putting the
event queue into the mmapped page at this stage. If it makes sense to
add it, it can be added later.
Paul.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-03-17 8:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-03-17 5:42 Paul Mackerras
2009-03-17 7:38 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-17 8:27 ` Paul Mackerras [this message]
2009-03-17 8:41 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-17 9:24 ` Paul Mackerras
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