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From: Lukasz Luba <lukasz.luba@arm.com>
To: Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>
Cc: rui.zhang@intel.com, amit.kucheria@verdurent.com,
	amit.kachhap@gmail.com, daniel.lezcano@linaro.org,
	viresh.kumar@linaro.org, len.brown@intel.com, pavel@ucw.cz,
	Pierre.Gondois@arm.com, ionela.voinescu@arm.com,
	rostedt@goodmis.org, mhiramat@kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org,
	rafael@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 12/17] PM: EM: Add argument to get_cost() for runtime modification
Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2023 16:30:13 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <18b1a981-79a0-13d7-bfba-2f1c0e554da9@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <93afb0fd-6226-4b0d-380a-182ecf028b34@arm.com>



On 5/30/23 10:53, Dietmar Eggemann wrote:
> On 12/05/2023 11:57, Lukasz Luba wrote:
>> The Energy Model (EM) supports runtime modifications. Let also the
>> artificial EM use this new feature and allow to update the 'cost' values
>> at runtime. When the artificial EM is used there is a need to provide
>> two callbacks: get_cost() and update_power(), not only the last one.
>>
>> Update also CPPC driver code, since the new argument is needed there
>> to compile properly and register EM.
> 
> Is there a real use case behind this? It can't be mobile which IMHO
> drivers the rest of the 'Runtime modifiable EM' feature.

Correct, CPPC+EM is not for mobile phones, but notebooks. For now
the notebooks are not tested with that feature and were not in
requirement scope.

> 
> Do we know of any machine using the artificial EM. And do they care
> about EM matching workload or static power?
> 
> [...]

For now we don't know about such notebook which uses CPPC + EM
and if it's a candidate for this feature.

I thought, since it's just one patch w/ small change, it would be
consistent to not 'forget' about that notebooks angle. I know
that there are some folks who 'run'/'are willing to run' Arm laptop with
CPPC w/ artificial EM. They might pick that feature as well.

  reply	other threads:[~2023-07-03 15:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-05-12  9:57 [PATCH v2 00/17] Introduce runtime modifiable Energy Model Lukasz Luba
2023-05-12  9:57 ` [PATCH v2 01/17] PM: EM: Refactor em_cpufreq_update_efficiencies() arguments Lukasz Luba
2023-05-12  9:57 ` [PATCH v2 02/17] PM: EM: Find first CPU online while updating OPP efficiency Lukasz Luba
2023-05-12  9:57 ` [PATCH v2 03/17] PM: EM: Refactor em_pd_get_efficient_state() to be more flexible Lukasz Luba
2023-05-30 11:06   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2023-07-03 16:22     ` Lukasz Luba
2023-05-12  9:57 ` [PATCH v2 04/17] PM: EM: Create a new function em_compute_costs() Lukasz Luba
2023-05-30  9:51   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2023-07-03 15:09     ` Lukasz Luba
2023-05-12  9:57 ` [PATCH v2 05/17] trace: energy_model: Add trace event for EM runtime modifications Lukasz Luba
2023-05-30 10:03   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2023-07-03 15:53     ` Lukasz Luba
2023-05-12  9:57 ` [PATCH v2 06/17] PM: EM: Add update_power() callback for " Lukasz Luba
2023-05-30  9:31   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2023-07-03 15:06     ` Lukasz Luba
2023-05-12  9:57 ` [PATCH v2 07/17] PM: EM: Check if the get_cost() callback is present in em_compute_costs() Lukasz Luba
2023-05-12  9:57 ` [PATCH v2 08/17] PM: EM: Introduce runtime modifiable table Lukasz Luba
2023-05-14  4:28   ` kernel test robot
2023-05-30 10:18   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2023-07-03 15:58     ` Lukasz Luba
2023-05-12  9:57 ` [PATCH v2 09/17] PM: EM: Add RCU mechanism which safely cleans the old data Lukasz Luba
2023-05-30 10:02   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2023-07-03 15:49     ` Lukasz Luba
2023-05-12  9:57 ` [PATCH v2 10/17] PM: EM: Add runtime update interface to modify EM power Lukasz Luba
2023-05-12  9:57 ` [PATCH v2 11/17] PM: EM: Use runtime modified EM for CPUs energy estimation in EAS Lukasz Luba
2023-05-12  9:57 ` [PATCH v2 12/17] PM: EM: Add argument to get_cost() for runtime modification Lukasz Luba
2023-05-30  9:53   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2023-07-03 15:30     ` Lukasz Luba [this message]
2023-05-12  9:57 ` [PATCH v2 13/17] PM: EM: Refactor struct em_perf_domain and add default_table Lukasz Luba
2023-05-30 10:23   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2023-07-03 16:00     ` Lukasz Luba
2023-05-12  9:57 ` [PATCH v2 14/17] Documentation: EM: Add a new section about the design Lukasz Luba
2023-05-30 10:33   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2023-07-03 16:09     ` Lukasz Luba
2023-05-12  9:57 ` [PATCH v2 15/17] Documentation: EM: Add a runtime modifiable EM design description Lukasz Luba
2023-05-30 10:42   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2023-07-03 16:13     ` Lukasz Luba
2023-05-12  9:57 ` [PATCH v2 16/17] Documentation: EM: Add example with driver modifying the EM Lukasz Luba
2023-05-12  9:57 ` [PATCH v2 17/17] Documentation: EM: Describe the API of runtime modifications Lukasz Luba
2023-05-24 17:25 ` [PATCH v2 00/17] Introduce runtime modifiable Energy Model Rafael J. Wysocki
2023-07-03 11:08   ` Lukasz Luba
2023-05-30 11:07 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2023-07-03 16:35   ` Lukasz Luba

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