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From: Frank Rowand <frowand.list@gmail.com>
To: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>, "Bird, Tim" <Tim.Bird@sony.com>
Cc: "shuah@kernel.org" <shuah@kernel.org>,
	"linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org"
	<linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org>,
	Brendan Higgins <brendanhiggins@google.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	David Gow <davidgow@google.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Frank Rowand <frowand.list@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: RFC - kernel selftest result documentation (KTAP)
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2020 13:52:55 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <19617b29-0298-5caf-39f2-ab08a7fddb82@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <202006161642.A5F50ED07@keescook>

On 2020-06-16 18:52, Kees Cook wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 07:07:34PM +0000, Bird, Tim wrote:
>> From: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
>>> Note: making the plan line required differs from TAP13 and TAP14. I
>>> think it's the right choice, but we should be clear.
>>
>> [...]
>> With regards to making it optional or not, I don't have a strong
>> preference.  The extra info seems helpful in some circumstances.
>> I don't know if it's too onerous to make it a requirement or not.
>> I'd prefer if it was always there (either at the beginning or the end),
>> but if there is some situation where it's quite difficult to calculate,
>> then it would be best not to mandate it. I can't think of any impossible
>> situations at the moment.
> 
> I think we should require one of:
> 
> - starting plan line
> - ending plan line

> - ending with something that indicates "I'm done, but I have no idea how
>   many tests actually ran" (Maybe "1..?")

I understand the desire to be able to say "I don't know how many tests
actually ran", but the use of it should be discouraged, even if available.

-Frank

> 
> To me, the point of the plan line is to be able to say "this test did,
> in fact, finish". So even if some test can't even count how many tests
> it _ran_, it can at least say "I am now finished".
> 
>>> TAP13/14 makes description optional, are we making it required (I think
>>> we should). There seems to be a TAP13/14 "convention" of starting
>>> <description> with "- ", which I'm on the fence about it. It does make
>>> parsing maybe a little easier.
>>
>> I would like the description to be required.
>> I don't have a strong opinion on the dash.  I'm OK with either one (dash
>> or no dash), but we should make kselftest and KUnit consistent.
> 
> I find the dash to be distracting -- it doesn't help me scan it, and it
> doesn't help a parser (which only needs to find "#").
> 
>>>> Differences between kernel test result format and TAP13:
>>>>  - in KTAP the "# SKIP" directive is placed after the description on
>>>>    the test result line
> 
> I sent a bunch of clean-ups for kselftest.h recently[1], but it looks
> like we'll need more for adding "description" to skip (right now it only
> prints the SKIP reason).
> 
> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20200611224028.3275174-1-keescook@chromium.org/
> 
>>> Yes Documentation/*.rst Not sure on name yet, but where do kselftest
>>> docs live? :)
>> Documentation/dev-tools/kselftest.rst
>>
>> I'll put this at: Documentation/dev-tools/test-results-format.rst
> 
> Sounds good!
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2020-06-19 18:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-06-10 18:11 Bird, Tim
2020-06-13  5:07 ` David Gow
2020-06-15 17:34   ` Bird, Tim
2020-06-16 20:03     ` Brendan Higgins
2020-06-16 20:37       ` Bird, Tim
2020-06-17  0:02         ` Kees Cook
2020-06-19 19:32         ` Brendan Higgins
2020-06-19 18:17       ` Frank Rowand
2020-06-14 18:17 ` Kees Cook
2020-06-15 17:45   ` Bird, Tim
2020-06-15 18:44     ` Kees Cook
2020-06-14 18:39 ` Kees Cook
2020-06-15 19:07   ` Bird, Tim
2020-06-16 12:08     ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-06-16 16:42       ` Bird, Tim
2020-06-16 19:44         ` Brendan Higgins
2020-06-16 20:30           ` Bird, Tim
2020-06-16 23:58           ` Kees Cook
2020-06-19 18:47             ` Frank Rowand
2020-06-19 19:11               ` Kees Cook
2020-06-19 22:58               ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-06-20 14:51                 ` Frank Rowand
2020-06-19 18:33         ` Frank Rowand
2020-06-19 17:58       ` Frank Rowand
2020-06-20  6:44         ` David Gow
2020-06-20 15:03           ` Frank Rowand
2020-06-23  2:58             ` David Gow
2020-06-16 23:52     ` Kees Cook
2020-06-19 18:52       ` Frank Rowand [this message]
2020-06-19 19:50       ` Brendan Higgins
2020-06-19 19:49     ` Frank Rowand
2020-06-16 20:48 ` Brendan Higgins
2020-06-16 21:16   ` Bird, Tim
2020-06-16 21:19     ` Bird, Tim
2020-06-17  0:06     ` Kees Cook
2020-06-17  2:30       ` Bird, Tim
2020-06-17  3:36         ` Kees Cook
2020-06-17  4:05           ` David Gow
2020-06-19 19:44             ` Brendan Higgins
2020-06-19 20:19             ` Frank Rowand
2020-06-19 23:47               ` Bird, Tim
2020-06-19 19:39     ` Brendan Higgins
2020-06-19 17:13 ` Frank Rowand

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