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From: "John Stoffel" <john@stoffel.org>
To: Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: Kyle McMartin <kyle@mcmartin.ca>,
	James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	kernel@lists.fedoraproject.org, Mimi Zohar <zohar@us.ibm.com>,
	warthog9@kernel.org, Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Serge Hallyn <serue@us.ibm.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	mingo@elte.hu, eparis@redhat.com
Subject: Re: ima: use of radix tree cache indexing == massive waste of memory?
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 15:24:10 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <19644.40666.197005.18146@quad.stoffel.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1287417785.2516.53.camel@localhost.localdomain>

>>>>> "Mimi" == Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.vnet.ibm.com> writes:

Mimi> On Mon, 2010-10-18 at 02:25 -0400, Kyle McMartin wrote:
>> If someone gives me a good reason why Fedora actually needs this
>> enabled, I'm going to apply the following patch to our kernel so that
>> IMA is globally an opt-in feature... Otherwise I'm inclined to just
>> disable it.

Mimi> Am hoping others will chime in.

I'll chime in.  I run Debian Squeeze and Ubuntu 10.10 and neither of
them seem to have this monstrosity enabled at all, which is good.  It
should default to OFF and have a big fat warning saying it's a memory
pig.

>> (But the more I look at this, the more it looks like a completely niche
>> option that has little use outside of three-letter agencies.)
>> 
>> I regret not looking at this more closely when it was enabled,
>> (although, in my defence, when the option first showed up, I left it
>> off...)
>> 
>> It's probably way more heavyweight than necessary, as I think in most
>> cases the iint_initalized test will cover the call into IMA. But better
>> safe than sorry or something and there's a bunch of other cases where
>> -ENOMEM will leak back up from failing kmem_cache_alloc, iirc.
>> 
>> regards, Kyle

Mimi> Thanks, will compile/test patch.

>From what I'm reading, it's not even useful unless you have TPM
hardware?  

I dunno... I'm just hesitant to use this or SElinux because the
hassles are not worth the payoff.  

John

  reply	other threads:[~2010-10-18 19:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-10-16  6:52 Dave Chinner
2010-10-16 19:20 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-16 21:10   ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-10-17  0:35     ` Dave Chinner
2010-10-17  0:54       ` J.H.
2010-10-17  2:11         ` Dave Chinner
2010-10-18 18:12           ` J.H.
2010-10-17  0:49     ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-17  1:09       ` Kyle McMartin
2010-10-17  1:13         ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-17  5:49           ` Ingo Molnar
2010-10-17  5:40       ` Ingo Molnar
2010-10-17 18:46         ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-18  0:49           ` James Morris
2010-10-18  6:25             ` Kyle McMartin
2010-10-18  6:36               ` Andrew Morton
2010-10-18  9:29                 ` Dave Chinner
2010-10-18 13:31                   ` Mimi Zohar
2010-10-18 20:50                     ` Ware, Ryan R
2010-10-26  7:31                       ` Pavel Machek
2010-10-18 16:03               ` Mimi Zohar
2010-10-18 19:24                 ` John Stoffel [this message]
2010-10-18 16:46               ` Ryan Ware
2010-10-18 16:48               ` Eric Paris
2010-10-18 17:10                 ` Kyle McMartin
2010-10-18 17:34                 ` Kyle McMartin
2010-10-18 17:56                 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-10-18 18:13                   ` Eric Paris
2010-10-18 18:19                     ` Ingo Molnar
2010-10-18 18:43                       ` Eric Paris
2010-10-19  0:58                       ` Eric Paris
2010-10-18 18:06                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-10-18 18:11                   ` Ingo Molnar
2010-10-18 18:13                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-10-25 13:18             ` Pavel Machek
2010-10-17  5:57   ` Mimi Zohar
2010-10-17 11:02     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-10-17 13:12       ` Eric Paris
2010-10-17 13:59         ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-10-17 14:04           ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-10-17 14:16           ` Eric Paris
2010-10-18 11:57             ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-10-18 14:59               ` Ted Ts'o
2010-10-18 15:02                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-10-18 15:02                 ` Eric Paris
2010-10-17 18:52           ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-18 16:44             ` Ryan Ware
2010-10-18  0:07         ` Dave Chinner
2010-10-17 14:09       ` Mimi Zohar
2010-10-17 18:49     ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-17 19:39     ` Pavel Machek
2010-10-18 15:09 Christoph Hellwig

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