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From: "Vegard Nossum" <vegard.nossum@gmail.com>
To: "Joe Peterson" <joe@skyrush.com>
Cc: "Alan Cox" <alan@redhat.com>,
	"Alan Cox" <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	"David Newall" <davidn@davidnewall.com>,
	"Willy Tarreau" <w@1wt.eu>,
	"Harald Dunkel" <harald.dunkel@t-online.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: 2.6.25.3: su gets stuck for root
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 23:26:58 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <19f34abd0806141426o7ba13f91h6720db3609146e16@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <48542F75.5070605@skyrush.com>

On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 10:52 PM, Joe Peterson <joe@skyrush.com> wrote:
> Vegard Nossum wrote:
>> Yeah, a user-space process can do this, and it's the right behaviour
>> for the kernel. I did post a program that would "reproduce" what
>> you're seeing. I do now believe that it's something timing-related, as
>> Alan suggested initially. (But timing-related with your scripts, that
>> is. I must say, that "sleep 2" does look a bit suspicious; I have no
>> idea what that is supposed to do :-))
>
> Ah, that is something I put in there to artificially make it more
> reproducible.  Here's the reason: when I first encountered the problem,
> it was happening if the home dir of the user was on the "btrfs"
> filesystem (the new checksumming one from Oracle).  This made me suspect
> btrfs initially.  But I reproduced the problem [more sporadically] when
> the home was on ext3 as well.  Since btrfs has a different performance
> profile, especially when first accessed after a mount (and it is a
> filesystem still under development, so some optimizations are yet to
> come), I figured it might be timing-related, and sure enough, adding the
> "sleep 2" proved that.

I'm not sure it is. Try adding sleep 3 instead. Because I have the
"sleep 2" when I run "su foo" as well, and I _didn't_ put it there:

[pid  6298] execve("/bin/sleep", ["sleep", "2"], [/* 47 vars */]
<unfinished ...>


Vegard

-- 
"The animistic metaphor of the bug that maliciously sneaked in while
the programmer was not looking is intellectually dishonest as it
disguises that the error is the programmer's own creation."
	-- E. W. Dijkstra, EWD1036

  reply	other threads:[~2008-06-14 21:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-06-02  1:31 Joe Peterson
2008-06-02  5:12 ` Harald Dunkel
2008-06-02  5:32   ` Willy Tarreau
2008-06-02  5:55     ` Joe Peterson
2008-06-02  8:10     ` Alan Cox
2008-06-02  9:01       ` David Newall
2008-06-02  9:20         ` Alan Cox
2008-06-02 10:16           ` Vegard Nossum
2008-06-02 10:39             ` Vegard Nossum
2008-06-02 10:52               ` Alan Cox
2008-06-02 10:57                 ` Vegard Nossum
2008-06-02 12:28                   ` Alan Cox
2008-06-02 14:31                     ` Vegard Nossum
2008-06-02 10:50             ` Alan Cox
2008-06-17 15:32               ` Joe Peterson
2008-06-02 15:26           ` Joe Peterson
2008-06-02 15:51             ` Alan Cox
2008-06-02 16:03               ` Joe Peterson
2008-06-04 14:43               ` Joe Peterson
2008-06-04 15:16                 ` Alan Cox
2008-06-04 16:52                   ` Joe Peterson
2008-06-04 17:10                     ` Alan Cox
2008-06-04 20:32                       ` Joe Peterson
2008-06-11 14:04                         ` Joe Peterson
2008-06-12 11:52                           ` Vegard Nossum
2008-06-14  1:49                             ` Joe Peterson
2008-06-14  7:45                               ` Vegard Nossum
2008-06-14 17:43                                 ` Joe Peterson
2008-06-14 20:34                                   ` Vegard Nossum
2008-06-14 20:52                                     ` Joe Peterson
2008-06-14 21:26                                       ` Vegard Nossum [this message]
2008-06-14 21:34                                         ` Joe Peterson
2008-07-02 18:03                                         ` tty session leader issue (was Re: 2.6.25.3: su gets stuck for root) Joe Peterson
2008-07-02 19:21                                           ` markus reichelt
2008-07-06 14:08                                           ` Tim Connors
2008-07-06 16:44                                             ` Alan Cox
2008-07-06 18:49                                             ` tty session leader issue [cause now known!] " Joe Peterson
2008-06-02  5:42   ` 2.6.25.3: su gets stuck for root Joe Peterson
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-05-13  6:17 Harald Dunkel
2008-05-13  6:47 ` Vegard Nossum
2008-05-13 17:43   ` Harald Dunkel
2008-05-13 19:46     ` Willy Tarreau
2008-05-14  4:55       ` Harald Dunkel
2008-05-14  5:46         ` Willy Tarreau
2008-05-14  7:34     ` Vegard Nossum
2008-05-14 17:05       ` Harald Dunkel
2008-05-14 17:17         ` Vegard Nossum
2008-05-14 17:35           ` Alan Cox
2008-05-18 17:56             ` Harald Dunkel
2008-05-18 17:51               ` Alan Cox
2008-05-20 19:01                 ` Harald Dunkel
2008-05-20 19:12                   ` david
2008-05-20 20:26                     ` Harald Dunkel
2008-05-20 20:38                       ` Willy Tarreau

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