From: "Vegard Nossum" <vegard.nossum@gmail.com>
To: "Adrian Bunk" <bunk@kernel.org>
Cc: "Pekka Enberg" <penberg@cs.helsinki.fi>,
"Alexey Dobriyan" <adobriyan@gmail.com>,
"David Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
"Ingo Molnar" <mingo@elte.hu>,
"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] bitfields API
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 22:59:59 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <19f34abd0808281359p6ee01393x209f2bf2de3918af@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080828202750.GB16462@cs181140183.pp.htv.fi>
On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 10:27 PM, Adrian Bunk <bunk@kernel.org> wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 09:40:47PM +0300, Pekka Enberg wrote:
>> Hi Alexey,
>>
>> Alexey Dobriyan wrote:
>>> On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 08:32:23PM +0200, Vegard Nossum wrote:
>>>> How do you feel about this patch? It's all about making kmemcheck more
>>>> useful... and not much else. Does it have any chance of entering the
>>>> kernel along with kmemcheck (when/if that happens)?
>>>
>>> DEFINE_BITFIELD is horrible.
>>
>> Heh, heh, one alternative is to have a kmemcheck_memset() thingy that
>> unconditionally zeroes bit fields and maybe is a no-op when kmemcheck is
>> disabled.
>
> This sounds as if this might cause bugs to disappear when debugging gets
> turned on?
>
> Or do I miss anything?
You are correct :-)
Almost all the possible solutions (at least the feasible ones) are
trade-offs between false-positives and false-negatives.
So here we are trading a bunch of false-positive errors (a couple of
thousand for transferring a 1M file over ssh :-)) for detecting any
code that uses an uninitialized flag in struct skbuff. So in this case
it is more useful to hide reports about this single bit-field.
Vegard
--
"The animistic metaphor of the bug that maliciously sneaked in while
the programmer was not looking is intellectually dishonest as it
disguises that the error is the programmer's own creation."
-- E. W. Dijkstra, EWD1036
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-08-28 21:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-08-28 18:32 Vegard Nossum
2008-08-28 18:40 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2008-08-28 18:40 ` Pekka Enberg
2008-08-28 20:27 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-08-28 20:54 ` Pekka Enberg
2008-08-28 20:59 ` Vegard Nossum [this message]
2008-08-28 18:46 ` Vegard Nossum
2008-08-28 19:02 ` Pekka J Enberg
2008-08-28 19:38 ` Vegard Nossum
2008-08-30 8:28 ` Vegard Nossum
2008-08-28 19:05 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2008-08-28 19:07 ` Pekka Enberg
2008-08-28 19:18 ` Vegard Nossum
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