From: Jon Hunter <jonathanh@nvidia.com>
To: Todor Tomov <todor.tomov@linaro.org>,
Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@linaro.org>,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
"Kevin Hilman" <khilman@kernel.org>,
"linux-pm@vger.kernel.org" <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>
Cc: Rajendra Nayak <rnayak@codeaurora.org>,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
"Stanimir Varbanov" <stanimir.varbanov@linaro.org>,
Stephen Boyd <sboyd@codeaurora.org>,
Marek Szyprowski <m.szyprowski@samsung.com>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-tegra@vger.kernel.org" <linux-tegra@vger.kernel.org>,
Bjorn Andersson <bjorn.andersson@linaro.org>,
<viresh.kumar@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/4] PM / Domains: Add support for explicit control of PM domains
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2017 10:13:02 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1a4f49f0-23f2-a037-c5ca-bbb8b58f0b67@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <72397ec8-d169-c5b1-2120-459031b35d48@linaro.org>
On 09/10/17 17:36, Todor Tomov wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 30.05.2017 06:41, Rajendra Nayak wrote:
>> []..
>>
>>>>> I was proposing to have such a lower-layer by splitting the existing
>>>>> genpd framework so the drivers would have the option of calling the
>>>>> lower-level power control functions to look-up pm-domains and control
>>>>> them directly from their rpm callbacks (if they need to). Same as we do
>>>>> for clocks. This way you would not need to mess with the genpd ->start()
>>>>> callback and leave it to the driver to handle itself as it knows what
>>>>> needs to be done. This assumes that the device is never bound to the
>>>>> pm-domain by the genpd core.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, agree! To me this is the only solution what would really work.
>>>
>>> I agree! :-)
>>>
>>>> Perhaps Rafael can confirm that he is fine with a solution like this?
>>>
>>> Yes and Rafael, please can you also elaborate on what you meant by
>>> "allow genpd to use either a list of power resources or the on/off
>>> callbacks provided by itself to cover different use cases"?
>>>
>>> I would like to understand exactly what you meant by allowing genpd to
>>> use a list of power resources (ie. how you envisioned we could achieve
>>> this).
>>
>> While thinking through the problem of devices associated with multiple Power
>> domains (or power resources) and controlling them individually (or together)
>> I was wondering if something like a PM domain governor (with PM resource
>> level constraints) could help.
>>
>> So with just one set of PM domain callbacks, its quite easy to control multiple power
>> resources, if they need to be *all* turned on/off together, using something similar to
>> what Jon proposed in his RFC [1]
>>
>> However, there could be instances where in we might need to control them individually
>> and in such cases we could hook up a PM domain governor which decides if an individual
>> PM resource can be turned on or off while the device is runtime suspended/resumed.
>> We can expose some PM resource level QoS APIs which the drivers can use to express their
>> needs, which the PM domain governor then takes into account during the decision making.
>>
>> if this seems worth pursuing further, I can post some RFCs on these lines and
>> get the discussion going.
>>
>> thanks,
>> Rajendra
>>
>> [1] https://lkml.org/lkml/2016/9/20/173
>>
>
> I have come to a similar case with multiple power domains on Qualcomm APQ8096 - the
> camera subsystem has two VFE modules (Video Front End - these are image processing modules)
> and each of them has a separate power domain but we might want to control these from
> a single driver.
>
> So I wanted to ask if there have been any news on this topic lately?
There has not but there is still clearly a need for this and we need it
for Tegra. I still plan to get back to this but recently a few items
have cropped up and I have not had chance. So sorry about that.
My plan was to split the current GPD framework so there is a lower-level
set of APIs for managing the power-domains as I discussed with Rafael [0].
Cheers
Jon
[0] https://lkml.org/lkml/2017/5/2/203
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Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-03-28 14:13 Jon Hunter
2017-03-28 14:14 ` [RFC PATCH 1/4] PM / Domains: Prepare for supporting explicit PM domain control Jon Hunter
2017-03-28 14:14 ` [RFC PATCH 2/4] PM / Domains: Add support for explicit control of PM domains Jon Hunter
2017-04-10 4:09 ` Rajendra Nayak
2017-04-10 8:24 ` Jon Hunter
2017-04-10 10:02 ` Rajendra Nayak
2017-04-10 19:48 ` Jon Hunter
2017-03-28 14:14 ` [RFC PATCH 3/4] PM / Domains: Add OF helpers for getting " Jon Hunter
2017-03-28 14:14 ` [RFC PATCH 4/4] dt-bindings: Add support for devices with multiple " Jon Hunter
2017-04-10 4:12 ` Rajendra Nayak
2017-04-10 8:24 ` Jon Hunter
2017-04-25 11:13 ` [RFC PATCH 0/4] PM / Domains: Add support for explicit control of " Jon Hunter
2017-04-25 19:34 ` Ulf Hansson
2017-04-25 21:17 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-05-02 10:10 ` Jon Hunter
2017-05-02 21:51 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-05-03 8:12 ` Ulf Hansson
2017-05-03 8:32 ` Jon Hunter
2017-05-03 13:43 ` Ulf Hansson
2017-05-03 14:57 ` Jon Hunter
2017-05-03 17:12 ` Ulf Hansson
2017-05-04 8:44 ` Jon Hunter
2017-05-30 3:41 ` Rajendra Nayak
2017-10-09 16:36 ` Todor Tomov
2017-10-10 9:13 ` Jon Hunter [this message]
2017-05-03 8:12 ` Jon Hunter
2017-04-26 8:06 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-04-26 9:04 ` Ulf Hansson
2017-04-26 9:17 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-04-26 9:55 ` Ulf Hansson
2017-05-03 6:43 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-05-03 8:54 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
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