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From: "Chuyi Zhou" <zhouchuyi@bytedance.com>
To: "Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: <tglx@linutronix.de>, <mingo@redhat.com>, <luto@kernel.org>,
	 <paulmck@kernel.org>, <muchun.song@linux.dev>, <bp@alien8.de>,
	 <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>, <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	 <bigeasy@linutronix.de>, <clrkwllms@kernel.org>,
	<rostedt@goodmis.org>,  <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 10/12] x86/mm: Move flush_tlb_info back to the stack
Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2026 15:01:19 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1aeb64e0-97bb-4b25-a0b7-435240dfbbd3@bytedance.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260302145848.GI1395266@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net>

Hi Peter,

在 2026/3/2 22:58, Peter Zijlstra 写道:
> On Mon, Mar 02, 2026 at 03:52:14PM +0800, Chuyi Zhou wrote:
>> Commit 3db6d5a5ecaf ("x86/mm/tlb: Remove 'struct flush_tlb_info' from the
>> stack") converted flush_tlb_info from stack variable to per-CPU variable.
>> This brought about a performance improvement of around 3% in extreme test.
>> However, it also required that all flush_tlb* operations keep preemption
>> disabled entirely to prevent concurrent modifications of flush_tlb_info.
>> flush_tlb* needs to send IPIs to remote CPUs and synchronously wait for
>> all remote CPUs to complete their local TLB flushes. The process could
>> take tens of milliseconds when interrupts are disabled or with a large
>> number of remote CPUs.
>>
>>  From the perspective of improving kernel real-time performance, this patch
>> reverts flush_tlb_info back to stack variables. This is a preparation for
>> enabling preemption during TLB flush in next patch.
> 
> This isn't properly justified. You've got to show that 'most' workloads
> are not adversely affected by this.
> 
> Most people still swing towards performance most of the time.

I attempted to reproduce the microbenchmark mentioned in Commit 
3db6d5a5ecaf ("x86/mm/tlb: Remove 'struct flush_tlb_info' from the 
stack") using the script below.

The baseline was tip/sched/core: f74d204baf9f (sched/hrtick: Mark
hrtick_clear() as always used).

The test environment was an Ice Lake system (Intel(R) Xeon(R) Platinum
8336C) with 128 CPUs and 2 NUMA nodes.

Using the per-CPU flush_tlb_info showed only a very marginal performance
advantage, approximately 1%.

                             base            on-stack
                             ----            ---------
       avg (usec/op)         5.9362           5.9956   (+1%)
       stddev                0.0240           0.0096

I also tested with mmtest/stress-ng-madvise, which randomly calls 
madvise on pages within a mmap range and triggers a large number of 
high-frequency TLB flushes. However, I did not observe any significant 
difference.

				 baseline              on-stack

Amean     bops-madvise-1        13.64 (   0.00%)      13.56 (   0.59%)
Amean     bops-madvise-2        27.32 (   0.00%)      27.26 (   0.24%)
Amean     bops-madvise-4        53.35 (   0.00%)      53.54 (  -0.35%)
Amean     bops-madvise-8        103.09 (   0.00%)     103.30 (  -0.20%)
Amean     bops-madvise-16       191.88 (   0.00%)     191.75 (   0.07%)
Amean     bops-madvise-32       287.98 (   0.00%)     291.01 *  -1.05%*
Amean     bops-madvise-64       365.84 (   0.00%)     368.09 *  -0.61%*
Amean     bops-madvise-128      422.72 (   0.00%)     423.47 (  -0.18%)
Amean     bops-madvise-256      435.61 (   0.00%)     435.63 (  -0.01%)


Thanks.

#define _GNU_SOURCE
#include <stdio.h>
#include <stdlib.h>
#include <pthread.h>
#include <sys/mman.h>
#include <sys/time.h>
#include <unistd.h>

#define NUM_OPS 1000000
#define NUM_THREADS 3
#define NUM_RUNS 5
#define PAGE_SIZE 4096

volatile int stop_threads = 0;


void *busy_wait_thread(void *arg) {
     while (!stop_threads) {
         __asm__ volatile ("nop");
     }
     return NULL;
}

long long get_usec() {
     struct timeval tv;
     gettimeofday(&tv, NULL);
     return tv.tv_sec * 1000000LL + tv.tv_usec;
}

int main() {
     pthread_t threads[NUM_THREADS];
     char *addr;
     int i, r;


     addr = mmap(NULL, PAGE_SIZE, PROT_READ | PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE | 
MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0);
     if (addr == MAP_FAILED) {
         perror("mmap");
         exit(1);
     }


     for (i = 0; i < NUM_THREADS; i++) {
         if (pthread_create(&threads[i], NULL, busy_wait_thread, NULL) 
!= 0) {
             perror("pthread_create");
             exit(1);
         }
     }

     printf("Running benchmark: %d runs, %d ops each, %d background 
threads\n", NUM_RUNS, NUM_OPS, NUM_THREADS);

     for (r = 0; r < NUM_RUNS; r++) {
         long long start, end;

         start = get_usec();
         for (i = 0; i < NUM_OPS; i++) {

             addr[0] = 1;

             if (madvise(addr, PAGE_SIZE, MADV_DONTNEED) != 0) {
                 perror("madvise");
                 exit(1);
             }
         }
         end = get_usec();

         double duration = (double)(end - start);
         double avg_lat = duration / NUM_OPS;
         printf("Run %d: Total time %.2f us, Avg latency %.4f us/op\n", 
r + 1, duration, avg_lat);
     }


     stop_threads = 1;
     for (i = 0; i < NUM_THREADS; i++) {
         pthread_join(threads[i], NULL);
     }

     munmap(addr, PAGE_SIZE);
     return 0;
}

  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-03-05  7:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-02  7:52 [PATCH v2 00/12] Allow preemption during IPI completion waiting to improve real-time performance Chuyi Zhou
2026-03-02  7:52 ` [PATCH v2 01/12] smp: Disable preemption explicitly in __csd_lock_wait Chuyi Zhou
2026-03-02  7:52 ` [PATCH v2 02/12] smp: Enable preemption early in smp_call_function_single Chuyi Zhou
2026-03-02  7:52 ` [PATCH v2 03/12] smp: Remove get_cpu from smp_call_function_any Chuyi Zhou
2026-03-02  7:52 ` [PATCH v2 04/12] smp: Use on-stack cpumask in smp_call_function_many_cond Chuyi Zhou
2026-03-10  7:12   ` Muchun Song
2026-03-02  7:52 ` [PATCH v2 05/12] smp: Free call_function_data via RCU in smpcfd_dead_cpu Chuyi Zhou
2026-03-10  7:05   ` Muchun Song
2026-03-10  7:26     ` Chuyi Zhou
2026-03-02  7:52 ` [PATCH v2 06/12] smp: Enable preemption early in smp_call_function_many_cond Chuyi Zhou
2026-03-02  7:52 ` [PATCH v2 07/12] smp: Remove preempt_disable from smp_call_function Chuyi Zhou
2026-03-10  7:06   ` Muchun Song
2026-03-02  7:52 ` [PATCH v2 08/12] smp: Remove preempt_disable from on_each_cpu_cond_mask Chuyi Zhou
2026-03-10  7:06   ` Muchun Song
2026-03-02  7:52 ` [PATCH v2 09/12] scftorture: Remove preempt_disable in scftorture_invoke_one Chuyi Zhou
2026-03-02  7:52 ` [PATCH v2 10/12] x86/mm: Move flush_tlb_info back to the stack Chuyi Zhou
2026-03-02 14:58   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-03-03  3:20     ` Chuyi Zhou
2026-03-05  7:01     ` Chuyi Zhou [this message]
2026-03-02  7:52 ` [PATCH v2 11/12] x86/mm: Enable preemption during native_flush_tlb_multi Chuyi Zhou
2026-03-02  7:52 ` [PATCH v2 12/12] x86/mm: Enable preemption during flush_tlb_kernel_range Chuyi Zhou
2026-03-10  6:35   ` kernel test robot

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