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From: Tao Cui <cui.tao@linux.dev>
To: Andrea Righi <arighi@nvidia.com>
Cc: cui.tao@linux.dev, tj@kernel.org, void@manifault.com,
	changwoo@igalia.com, suzhidao@xiaomi.com,
	sched-ext@lists.linux.dev, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	bpf@vger.kernel.org, Tao Cui <cuitao@kylinos.cn>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] docs/sched_ext: document that cgroup CPU knobs are scheduler-dependent
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2026 21:08:45 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1b2f54bd-97f5-4175-9a92-34871dd6f375@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aowxJK_KgBLLnyiN@gpd4>

Hello, Andrea,

在 2026/8/24 19:55, Andrea Righi 写道:
> Hi Tao,
> 
> On Mon, Aug 24, 2026 at 05:15:01PM +0800, Tao Cui wrote:
>> From: Tao Cui <cuitao@kylinos.cn>
>>
>> The fair class enforces cpu controller knobs such as cpu.max,
>> cpu.weight and cpu.idle in the kernel. sched_ext only passes them to
>> the BPF scheduler through the ops.cgroup_set_*() callbacks. Whether
>> and how a knob takes effect is up to the loaded scheduler: it may
>> implement the corresponding callback partially or not at all. The
>> same applies to other knobs like nice levels.
>>
>> Document this in the basics section so users and container
>> orchestrators know what to expect from a BPF scheduler.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Tao Cui <cuitao@kylinos.cn>
>> ---
>> v2 -> v3: Drop the scheduler list and the nr_throttled example, keep
>> the section concise and generic, per review.
>>
>> v2: https://lore.kernel.org/r/20260819012157.220932-1-cui.tao@linux.dev
>>
>>  Documentation/scheduler/sched-ext.rst | 12 ++++++++++++
>>  1 file changed, 12 insertions(+)
>>
>> diff --git a/Documentation/scheduler/sched-ext.rst b/Documentation/scheduler/sched-ext.rst
>> index 35b550671ca7..b594d93dd6aa 100644
>> --- a/Documentation/scheduler/sched-ext.rst
>> +++ b/Documentation/scheduler/sched-ext.rst
>> @@ -242,6 +242,18 @@ optional. The following modified excerpt is from
>>              .name                   = "simple",
>>      };
>>  
>> +Scheduler-Dependent Knobs
>> +-------------------------
>> +
>> +The fair class enforces cpu controller knobs such as ``cpu.max``,
>> +``cpu.weight`` and ``cpu.idle`` in the kernel. sched_ext only passes
>> +them to the BPF scheduler through ``ops.cgroup_set_weight()``,
>> +``ops.cgroup_set_idle()``, ``ops.cgroup_set_bandwidth()`` and friends.
> 
> Existing cpu.weight and bandwidth values are delivered via ops.cgroup_init(),
> ops.cgroup_set_*() callbacks handle later changes.
> 
> Moreover, cpu.idle state is not included in scx_cgroup_init_args, so apparently
> BPF schedulers don't receive an initial value (only subsequent writes). This
> should be probably fixed separately.
> 
>> +Whether and how a knob takes effect is up to the loaded scheduler: it
>> +may implement the corresponding callback partially or not at all. The
>> +same applies to other knobs like nice levels. When relying on these
>> +knobs, check the documentation or source of the loaded scheduler.
>> +
> 
> "nice levels" can be a bit ambiguous, per-task nice changes are converted to
> weights and reported through ops.set_weight(), writes to the cgroup file
> cpu.weight.nice are reported through ops.cgroup_set_weight().
> 
> Maybe we can rephrase the whole paragraph as following, or something along these
> lines:
> 
>   The fair-class scheduler enforces CPU controller settings such as cpu.max,
>   cpu.weight, and cpu.idle. For sched_ext tasks, the scheduler core communicates
>   these settings to the BPF scheduler through ops.cgroup_init() and reports
>   subsequent changes through the corresponding ops.cgroup_set_*() callbacks.
>   Similarly, per-task nice changes are converted to weights and reported through
>   ops.set_weight().
> 
>   Each BPF scheduler is responsible for implementing the scheduling semantics of
>   these settings and may choose to ignore them. Consult the loaded scheduler's
>   documentation before relying on these controls.
> 

Thanks for the review. v4 adopts your wording: ops.cgroup_init()
for the initial values, ops.cgroup_set_*() only for subsequent
changes, and per-task nice disambiguated from cpu.weight.nice via
ops.set_weight().

On the missing cpu.idle initial value in scx_cgroup_init_args: I can
look into a separate fix for that.

Thanks,
Tao

> Thanks,
> -Andrea


      reply	other threads:[~2026-08-24 13:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 3+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-08-24  9:15 Tao Cui
2026-08-24 11:55 ` Andrea Righi
2026-08-24 13:08   ` Tao Cui [this message]

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