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From: Joe Perches <joe@perches.com>
To: Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@google.com>
Cc: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	asmadeus@codewreck.org,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Masahiro Yamada <yamada.masahiro@socionext.com>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	dwmw@amazon.co.uk, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	daniel@iogearbox.net, hpa@zytor.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] include/linux/compiler*.h: make compiler-*.h mutually exclusive
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2018 16:31:07 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1be357c91f6469c7a9b0e857fd15bad30347fd09.camel@perches.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKwvOdncUZZumxuJoLYWwPomNQb8TH+e0K=WaOSc5RjdJL7Uxw@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, 2018-08-23 at 16:12 -0700, Nick Desaulniers wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 2:19 PM Joe Perches <joe@perches.com> wrote:
> > 
> > On Thu, 2018-08-23 at 14:03 -0700, Nick Desaulniers wrote:
> > > One reply for a bunch of the various threads, to keep the number of emails down:
> > > 
> > > On Wed, Aug 22, 2018 at 5:20 PM Joe Perches <joe@perches.com> wrote:
> > > > On Wed, 2018-08-22 at 16:37 -0700, Nick Desaulniers wrote:
> > > > > +/* Compiler specific macros. */
> > > > >  #ifdef __clang__
> > > > >  #include <linux/compiler-clang.h>
> > > > 
> > > > probably better as
> > > > 
> > > > #if defined(__clang)
> > > > 
> > > > to match the style of the #elif defined()s below it
> > > 
> > > Hi Joe,
> > > Thanks for the feedback. I always appreciate it.  If you have some
> > > cleanups, want to send them to me, and I'll bundle them up for a PR?
> > > I'm ok with that change.
> > > 
> > > > > +#ifdef __GNUC_STDC_INLINE__
> > > > > +# define __gnu_inline        __attribute__((gnu_inline))
> > > > > +#else
> > > > > +# define __gnu_inline
> > > > > +#endif
> > > > 
> > > > Perhaps __gnu_inline should be in compiler-gcc and this
> > > > should use
> > > > 
> > > > #ifndef __gnu_inline
> > > > #define __gnu_inline
> > > > #endif
> > > 
> > > Not this case; it's how we get gnu89 semantics for `extern inline` is
> > > not compiler specific (therefor should not go in a compiler specific
> > > header).
> > 
> > It's not possible to know that compilers support what
> > __attribute__((<foo>)) and at what version that support
> > exists unless it is specified somewhere.
> 
> __has_attribute:
> https://clang.llvm.org/docs/LanguageExtensions.html#has-attribute
> 
> The release notes of GCC-5 mention __has_attribute.
> https://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-5/changes.html

So not available in the now minimum supported gcc 4.6?

> The point of feature detection is that it _doesn't matter_ what
> version that support exists.  Either it does and you can use it, or it
> doesn't and you can decide whether to stop compiling or there's a
> valid work around.
> 
> Feature detection should be preferred to explicit version checks
> except in 2 specific cases:
> 1. It's not possible to properly perform feature detection.  Language
> features should not be added unless it's possible to safely check for
> them.
> 2. A very specific version of a very specific compiler is broken and
> needs to be explicitly guarded against.
> 
> > As far as I can tell,  gnu_inline is not recognized by clang.
> > 
> > https://clang.llvm.org/docs/AttributeReference.html
> 
> If that was the case, I would not have added it in commit d03db2bc26f0
> ("compiler-gcc.h: Add __attribute__((gnu_inline)) to all inline
> declarations").
> https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=d03db2bc26f0e4a6849ad649a09c9c73fccdc656

Hard to know.
That commit message does not mention clang.

> Docs can sometimes fall behind, the lone source of truth is the source code.
> https://github.com/llvm-mirror/clang/search?q=gnu_inline&unscoped_q=gnu_inline

Which no compiler user should have to read.

> Godbolt is also incredibly helpful for testing various compiler versions:
> https://godbolt.org/z/uMJ-mo

Thanks for that.

> https://reviews.llvm.org/D51190

That too.

cheers, Joe

  reply	other threads:[~2018-08-23 23:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-08-22 23:37 Nick Desaulniers
2018-08-23  0:20 ` Joe Perches
2018-08-23  0:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-08-23  0:25 ` Dominique Martinet
2018-08-23  1:02   ` Linus Torvalds
2018-08-23  1:10     ` Dominique Martinet
2018-08-23  1:13       ` Linus Torvalds
2018-08-23  8:32     ` Kees Cook
2018-08-23 21:03       ` Nick Desaulniers
2018-08-23 21:10         ` Joe Perches
2018-08-23 21:19         ` Joe Perches
2018-08-23 23:12           ` Nick Desaulniers
2018-08-23 23:31             ` Joe Perches [this message]
2018-08-26 17:37               ` Miguel Ojeda
2018-08-23 22:08         ` Dominique Martinet
2018-08-23  2:42 ` Masahiro Yamada

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