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From: Alexander Lobakin <aleksander.lobakin@intel.com>
To: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@redhat.com>
Cc: "David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
	Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	John Fastabend <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
	"Andrii Nakryiko" <andrii@kernel.org>,
	Maciej Fijalkowski <maciej.fijalkowski@intel.com>,
	Stanislav Fomichev <sdf@fomichev.me>,
	"Magnus Karlsson" <magnus.karlsson@intel.com>,
	<nex.sw.ncis.osdt.itp.upstreaming@intel.com>,
	<bpf@vger.kernel.org>, <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v3 09/18] page_pool: allow mixing PPs within one bulk
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2024 15:32:20 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1c32ebcd-ae94-42fb-9b18-726da532161f@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ldy39k2g.fsf@toke.dk>

From: Toke Høiland-Jørgensen <toke@redhat.com>
Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2024 14:09:59 +0100

> Alexander Lobakin <aleksander.lobakin@intel.com> writes:
> 
>> The main reason for this change was to allow mixing pages from different
>> &page_pools within one &xdp_buff/&xdp_frame. Why not?
>> Adjust xdp_return_frame_bulk() and page_pool_put_page_bulk(), so that
>> they won't be tied to a particular pool. Let the latter create a
>> separate bulk of pages which's PP is different and flush it recursively.
>> This greatly optimizes xdp_return_frame_bulk(): no more hashtable
>> lookups. Also make xdp_flush_frame_bulk() inline, as it's just one if +
>> function call + one u32 read, not worth extending the call ladder.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Alexander Lobakin <aleksander.lobakin@intel.com>
> 
> Neat idea, but one comment, see below:

[...]

>> +	if (sub.count)
>> +		page_pool_put_page_bulk(sub.q, sub.count, true);
>> +
> 
> In the worst case here, this function can recursively call itself
> XDP_BULK_QUEUE_SIZE (=16) times. Which will blow ~2.5k of stack size,
> and lots of function call overhead. I'm not saying this level of
> recursion is likely to happen today, but who knows about future uses? So
> why not make it iterative instead of recursive (same basic idea, but
> some kind of 'goto begin', or loop, instead of the recursive call)?

Oh, great idea!
I was also unsure about the recursion here. Initially, I wanted header
split frames, which usually have linear/header part from one PP and
frag/payload part from second PP, to be efficiently recycled in bulks.
Currently, it's not possible, as a bulk will look like [1, 2, 1, 2, ...]
IOW will be flush every frame.
But I realize the recursion is not really optimal here, just the first
that came to my mind. I'll give you Suggested-by here (or
Co-developed-by?), really liked your approach :>

Thanks,
Olek

  reply	other threads:[~2024-11-04 14:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-10-30 16:51 [PATCH net-next v3 00/18] xdp: a fistful of generic changes (+libeth_xdp) Alexander Lobakin
2024-10-30 16:51 ` [PATCH net-next v3 01/18] jump_label: export static_key_slow_{inc,dec}_cpuslocked() Alexander Lobakin
2024-10-30 16:51 ` [PATCH net-next v3 02/18] skbuff: allow 2-4-argument skb_frag_dma_map() Alexander Lobakin
2024-10-30 16:51 ` [PATCH net-next v3 03/18] unroll: add generic loop unroll helpers Alexander Lobakin
2024-10-30 16:51 ` [PATCH net-next v3 04/18] bpf, xdp: constify some bpf_prog * function arguments Alexander Lobakin
2024-11-01 11:46   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2024-10-30 16:51 ` [PATCH net-next v3 05/18] xdp, xsk: constify read-only arguments of some static inline helpers Alexander Lobakin
2024-11-01 11:47   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2024-10-30 16:51 ` [PATCH net-next v3 06/18] xdp: allow attaching already registered memory model to xdp_rxq_info Alexander Lobakin
2024-11-01 11:51   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2024-10-30 16:51 ` [PATCH net-next v3 07/18] xdp: register system page pool as an XDP memory model Alexander Lobakin
2024-10-30 16:51 ` [PATCH net-next v3 08/18] page_pool: make page_pool_put_page_bulk() actually handle array of pages Alexander Lobakin
2024-11-01 11:55   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2024-10-30 16:51 ` [PATCH net-next v3 09/18] page_pool: allow mixing PPs within one bulk Alexander Lobakin
2024-11-01 13:09   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2024-11-04 14:32     ` Alexander Lobakin [this message]
2024-11-04 16:22       ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2024-10-30 16:51 ` [PATCH net-next v3 10/18] xdp: get rid of xdp_frame::mem.id Alexander Lobakin
2024-11-01  0:41   ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-11-04 14:36     ` Alexander Lobakin
2024-11-05  2:59       ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-11-01 13:13   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2024-10-30 16:51 ` [PATCH net-next v3 11/18] xdp: add generic xdp_buff_add_frag() Alexander Lobakin
2024-10-30 16:51 ` [PATCH net-next v3 12/18] xdp: add generic xdp_build_skb_from_buff() Alexander Lobakin
2024-11-01 13:18   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2024-11-04 14:39     ` Alexander Lobakin
2024-10-30 16:51 ` [PATCH net-next v3 13/18] xsk: allow attaching XSk pool via xdp_rxq_info_reg_mem_model() Alexander Lobakin
2024-11-01 13:20   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2024-10-30 16:51 ` [PATCH net-next v3 14/18] xsk: make xsk_buff_add_frag really add a frag via __xdp_buff_add_frag() Alexander Lobakin
2024-10-30 16:51 ` [PATCH net-next v3 15/18] xsk: add generic XSk &xdp_buff -> skb conversion Alexander Lobakin
2024-10-30 16:51 ` [PATCH net-next v3 16/18] xsk: add helper to get &xdp_desc's DMA and meta pointer in one go Alexander Lobakin
2024-10-30 16:52 ` [PATCH net-next v3 17/18] libeth: support native XDP and register memory model Alexander Lobakin
2024-10-30 16:52 ` [PATCH net-next v3 18/18] libeth: add a couple of XDP helpers (libeth_xdp) Alexander Lobakin

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