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From: Yajun Deng <yajun.deng@linux.dev>
To: Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>
Cc: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, mike.kravetz@oracle.com,
	muchun.song@linux.dev, willy@infradead.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 2/2] mm: Init page count in reserve_bootmem_region when MEMINIT_EARLY
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2023 17:29:19 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1c91dd62-886d-bb05-8aee-22191a8a2d8e@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20231013084827.GT3303@kernel.org>


On 2023/10/13 16:48, Mike Rapoport wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 12, 2023 at 05:53:22PM +0800, Yajun Deng wrote:
>> On 2023/10/12 17:23, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>>> On 10.10.23 04:31, Yajun Deng wrote:
>>>> On 2023/10/8 16:57, Yajun Deng wrote:
>>>>>> That looks wrong. if the page count would by pure luck be 0
>>>>>> already for hotplugged memory, you wouldn't clear the reserved
>>>>>> flag.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> These changes make me a bit nervous.
>>>>> Is 'if (page_count(page) || PageReserved(page))' be safer? Or do I
>>>>> need to do something else?
>>>>>
>>>> How about the following if statement? But it needs to add more patch
>>>> like v1 ([PATCH 2/4] mm: Introduce MEMINIT_LATE context).
>>>>
>>>> It'll be safer, but more complex. Please comment...
>>>>
>>>>      if (context != MEMINIT_EARLY || (page_count(page) ||
>>>> PageReserved(page)) {
>>>>
>>> Ideally we could make initialization only depend on the context, and not
>>> check for count or the reserved flag.
>>>
>> This link is v1,
>> https://lore.kernel.org/all/20230922070923.355656-1-yajun.deng@linux.dev/
>>
>> If we could make initialization only depend on the context, I'll modify it
>> based on v1.
> Although ~20% improvement looks impressive, this is only optimization of a
> fraction of the boot time, and realistically, how much 56 msec saves from
> the total boot time when you boot a machine with 190G of RAM?


There are a lot of factors that can affect the total boot time. 56 msec 
saves may be insignificant.

But if we look at the boot log, we'll see there's a significant time jump.

before:

[    0.250334] ACPI: PM-Timer IO Port: 0x508

[    0.618994] Memory: 173413056K/199884452K available (18440K kernel 
code, 4204K rwdata, 5608K rodata, 3188K init, 17024K bss, 5499616K 
reserved, 20971520K cma-reserved)


after:

[    0.260229] software IO TLB: area num 32.

[    0.563497] Memory: 173413056K/199884452K available (18440K kernel 
code, 4204K rwdata, 5608K rodata, 3188K init, 17024K bss, 5499616K 
reserved, 20971520K cma-reserved)


Memory initialization is time consuming in the boot log.

> I still think the improvement does not justify the churn, added complexity
> and special casing of different code paths of initialization of struct pages.
>   


Because there is a loop, if the order is MAX_ORDER, the loop will run 
1024 times. The following 'if' would be safer:

'if (context != MEMINIT_EARLY || (page_count(page) || >> 
PageReserved(page)) {'

This is a foundation. We may change this when we are able to safely 
remove page init in the hotplug context one day.

So the case for the early context is only temporary.

>> @Mike,  By the way,  this code will cost more time:
>>
>>                  if (context == MEMINIT_HOTPLUG)
>>                          flags = INIT_PAGE_COUNT | INIT_PAGE_RESERVED;
>>                  __init_single_page(page, pfn, zone, nid, flags);
>>
>>
>> [    0.014999] On node 0, zone DMA32: 31679 pages in unavailable ranges
>> [    0.311560] ACPI: PM-Timer IO Port: 0x508
>>
>>
>> This code will cost less time:
>>
>>                  __init_single_page(page, pfn, zone, nid, 0);
>>                  if (context == MEMINIT_HOTPLUG) {
>>                          init_page_count(page);
>>                          __SetPageReserved(page);
>>
>> [    0.014299] On node 0, zone DMA32: 31679 pages in unavailable ranges
>> [    0.250223] ACPI: PM-Timer IO Port: 0x508
>>

  reply	other threads:[~2023-10-13  9:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-09-28  8:33 [PATCH v4 0/2] mm: Don't set and reset page count in MEMINIT_EARLY Yajun Deng
2023-09-28  8:33 ` [PATCH v4 1/2] mm: pass page count and reserved to __init_single_page Yajun Deng
2023-09-29  8:19   ` Mike Rapoport
2023-09-29  9:37     ` Yajun Deng
2023-09-28  8:33 ` [PATCH v4 2/2] mm: Init page count in reserve_bootmem_region when MEMINIT_EARLY Yajun Deng
2023-09-29  8:30   ` Mike Rapoport
2023-09-29  9:50     ` Yajun Deng
2023-09-29 10:02       ` Mike Rapoport
2023-09-29 10:27         ` Yajun Deng
2023-10-01 18:59           ` Mike Rapoport
2023-10-02  7:03             ` Yajun Deng
2023-10-02  8:47               ` Mike Rapoport
2023-10-02  8:56                 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-10-02 11:10                   ` Mike Rapoport
2023-10-02 11:25                     ` David Hildenbrand
2023-10-03 14:38                       ` Yajun Deng
2023-10-05  5:06                         ` Mike Rapoport
2023-10-05 14:04                           ` Yajun Deng
2023-10-12  9:19                             ` Mike Rapoport
2023-10-12  9:36                               ` Yajun Deng
2023-10-02  8:30     ` David Hildenbrand
2023-10-08  8:57       ` Yajun Deng
2023-10-10  2:31         ` Yajun Deng
2023-10-12  9:23           ` David Hildenbrand
2023-10-12  9:53             ` Yajun Deng
2023-10-13  8:48               ` Mike Rapoport
2023-10-13  9:29                 ` Yajun Deng [this message]
2023-10-16  6:33                   ` Mike Rapoport
2023-10-16  8:10                     ` Yajun Deng
2023-10-16  8:16                       ` David Hildenbrand
2023-10-16  8:32                         ` Yajun Deng
2023-10-16  8:36                           ` David Hildenbrand
2023-10-16 10:17                             ` Yajun Deng
2023-10-17  9:58                               ` Yajun Deng

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