From: Helge Deller <deller@gmx.de>
To: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: Javier Martinez Canillas <javierm@redhat.com>,
Andy Shevchenko <andy.shevchenko@gmail.com>,
Thomas Zimmermann <tzimmermann@suse.de>,
Andy Shevchenko <andy@kernel.org>,
linux-fbdev@vger.kernel.org,
Michael Hennerich <michael.hennerich@analog.com>,
linux-staging@lists.linux.dev, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
Phillip Potter <phil@philpotter.co.uk>,
Carlis <zhangxuezhi1@yulong.com>,
Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>,
Lee Jones <lee.jones@linaro.org>,
Heiner Kallweit <hkallweit1@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 0/4] fbtft: Unorphan the driver for maintenance
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2022 12:51:46 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1d00ed48-0606-823c-58c4-e45948383c42@gmx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YfEyo2xxfFyl2ADI@kroah.com>
On 1/26/22 12:38, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 12:31:21PM +0100, Helge Deller wrote:
>> On 1/26/22 12:18, Javier Martinez Canillas wrote:
>>> On 1/26/22 11:59, Helge Deller wrote:
>>>> On 1/26/22 11:02, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
>>>
>>> [snip]
>>>
>>>>> P.S. For the record, I will personally NAK any attempts to remove that
>>>>> driver from the kernel. And this is another point why it's better not
>>>>> to be under the staging.
>>>>
>>>> I agree. Same as for me to NAK the disabling of fbcon's acceleration
>>>> features or even attempting to remove fbdev altogether (unless all
>>>> relevant drivers are ported to DRM).
>>>>
>>>
>>> But that will never happen if we keep moving the goal post.
>>>
>>> At some point new fbdev drivers should not be added anymore, otherwise
>>> the number of existing drivers that need conversion will keep growing.
>>
>> Good point, and yes you are right!
>>
>> I think the rule should be something like:
>>
>> New graphics devices (e.g. max. 3 years old from now) usually are
>> capable to be ported to DRM.
>> For those graphics cards we should put a hard stop and not include them
>> as new driver into the fbdev framework. Inclusion for those will only
>> happen as DRM driver.
>
> We made this rule 6 years ago already.
Very good.
Was there any decision how to handle drivers which can't use DRM,
or for which DRM doesn't make sense?
So the best way forward regarding those fbtft drivers is probably what
you suggested: Split them and move those DRM-capable drivers to DRM,
the others to fbdev, right?
Helge
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-01-26 11:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-01-25 20:21 Andy Shevchenko
2022-01-25 20:21 ` [PATCH v1 1/4] fbtft: Unorphan the driver Andy Shevchenko
2022-01-26 8:31 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-01-26 10:31 ` Daniel Vetter
2022-01-26 11:17 ` Helge Deller
2022-01-26 11:26 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-01-26 13:12 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-01-26 13:46 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-01-26 14:08 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-01-26 14:10 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-01-26 14:15 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-01-31 8:29 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-01-31 9:18 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2022-01-31 10:18 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-01-31 10:28 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2022-02-01 17:00 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-02-01 17:06 ` Daniel Vetter
2022-02-01 19:00 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2022-01-31 11:36 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-01-31 12:08 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-01-31 13:23 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-01-31 13:24 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-01-31 13:55 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-01-31 14:06 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-01-26 17:34 ` Jani Nikula
2022-01-26 11:27 ` Daniel Vetter
2022-01-26 13:14 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-01-26 11:31 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2022-01-26 13:13 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-01-26 13:07 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-01-26 13:06 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-01-26 13:22 ` Daniel Stone
2022-01-25 20:21 ` [PATCH v1 2/4] fbtft: Move driver out from staging Andy Shevchenko
2022-01-25 20:21 ` [PATCH v1 3/4] fbtft: Kill outdated documentation Andy Shevchenko
2022-01-25 20:21 ` [PATCH v1 4/4] fbtft: Replace 'depends on FB_TFT' by 'if FB_TFT ... endif' Andy Shevchenko
2022-01-25 20:40 ` Randy Dunlap
2022-01-26 8:54 ` Joe Perches
2022-01-26 13:02 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-01-26 8:52 ` [PATCH v1 0/4] fbtft: Unorphan the driver for maintenance Thomas Zimmermann
2022-01-26 10:02 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-01-26 10:04 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-01-26 10:28 ` Dan Carpenter
2022-01-26 12:37 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-01-26 12:56 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-01-26 13:18 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-01-26 13:44 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-01-26 13:19 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-01-26 13:36 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-01-26 13:17 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-01-26 10:43 ` Daniel Vetter
2022-01-26 10:47 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-01-26 10:52 ` Daniel Vetter
2022-01-26 11:15 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-01-26 13:26 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-01-26 13:24 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-01-26 10:59 ` Helge Deller
2022-01-26 11:18 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-01-26 11:24 ` Daniel Vetter
2022-01-26 11:38 ` Helge Deller
2022-01-26 11:45 ` Sven Schnelle
2022-01-26 13:30 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-01-27 9:18 ` Maxime Ripard
2022-01-26 11:31 ` Helge Deller
2022-01-26 11:38 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-01-26 11:51 ` Helge Deller [this message]
2022-01-26 12:15 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-01-26 11:51 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2022-01-26 13:27 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-01-26 13:47 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-01-26 14:11 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-01-26 14:18 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-01-26 14:24 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-01-26 14:45 ` Dan Carpenter
2022-01-26 22:31 ` Daniel Vetter
2022-01-27 6:29 ` Dan Carpenter
2022-01-27 10:32 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2022-01-27 11:11 ` Daniel Vetter
2022-01-27 16:34 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2022-01-26 22:37 ` Daniel Vetter
2022-01-26 11:41 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2022-01-26 13:32 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-01-26 15:02 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2022-01-26 15:33 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-01-26 15:54 ` Helge Deller
2022-01-26 13:15 ` Noralf Trønnes
2022-01-26 13:21 ` Andy Shevchenko
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