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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Andrew Lutomirski <amluto@gmail.com>
Cc: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@linux.intel.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Alexander van Heukelum <heukelum@fastmail.fm>,
	Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
	Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan.van.de.ven@intel.com>,
	Brian Gerst <brgerst@gmail.com>,
	Alexandre Julliard <julliard@winehq.com>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86-64: espfix for 64-bit mode *PROTOTYPE*
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2014 17:53:30 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1dbe8155-58da-45c2-9dc0-d9f4b5a6e643@email.android.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAObL_7EP+zPpx9TVgsSu2iFN+r0U8yy6UEZtdk=CPwowXUu=Qw@mail.gmail.com>

Well, if 2^17 CPUs are allocated we might 2K pages allocated.  We could easily do a bitmap here, of course.  NR_CPUS/64 is a small number, and would reduce the code complexity.

On April 21, 2014 5:37:05 PM PDT, Andrew Lutomirski <amluto@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 4:29 PM, H. Peter Anvin <hpa@zytor.com> wrote:
>> On 04/21/2014 04:19 PM, Andrew Lutomirski wrote:
>>>
>>> Hahaha! :)
>>>
>>> Some comments:
>>>
>>> Does returning to 64-bit CS with 16-bit SS not need espfix?
>>
>> There is no such thing.  With a 64-bit CS, the flags on SS are
>ignored
>> (although you still have to have a non-null SS... the conditions are
>a
>> bit complex.)
>>
>>> Conversely, does 16-bit CS and 32-bit SS need espfix?
>>
>> It does not, at least to the best of my knowledge (it is controlled
>by
>> the SS size, not the CS size.)
>>
>> I'm going to double-check the corner cases just out of healthy
>paranoia,
>> but I'm 98% sure this is correct (and if not, the 32-bit code needs
>to
>> be fixed, too.)
>>
>>>> @@ -1058,6 +1095,7 @@ bad_iret:
>>>>          * So pretend we completed the iret and took the #GPF in
>user mode.
>>>>          *
>>>>          * We are now running with the kernel GS after exception
>recovery.
>>>> +        * Exception entry will have removed us from the espfix
>stack.
>>>>          * But error_entry expects us to have user GS to match the
>user %cs,
>>>>          * so swap back.
>>>>          */
>>>
>>> What is that referring to?
>>
>> It means that we have already switched back from the espfix stack to
>the
>> real stack.
>>
>>>> +       /*
>>>> +        * Switch from the espfix stack to the proper stack: tricky
>stuff.
>>>> +        * On the stack right now is 5 words of exception frame,
>>>> +        * error code/oldeax, RDI, and the return value, so no
>additional
>>>> +        * stack is available.
>>>> +        *
>>>> +        * We will always be using the user space GS on entry.
>>>> +       */
>>>> +ENTRY(espfix_fix_stack)
>>>> +       SWAPGS
>>>> +       cld
>>>> +       movq PER_CPU_VAR(kernel_stack),%rdi
>>>> +       subq $8*8,%rdi
>>>> +       /* Use the real stack to hold these registers for now */
>>>> +       movq %rsi,-8(%rdi)
>>>> +       movq %rcx,-16(%rdi)
>>>> +       movq %rsp,%rsi
>>>> +       movl $8,%ecx
>>>> +       rep;movsq
>>>> +       leaq -(10*8)(%rdi),%rsp
>>>> +       popq %rcx
>>>> +       popq %rsi
>>>> +       SWAPGS
>>>> +       retq
>>>>
>>>
>>> Is it guaranteed that the userspace thread that caused this is dead?
>>> If not, do you need to change RIP so that espfix gets invoked again
>>> when you return from the exception?
>>
>> It is not guaranteed to be dead at all.  Why would you need to change
>> RIP, though?
>
>Oh.  You're not changing the RSP that you return to.  So this should be
>okay.
>
>>
>>>> +
>>>> +void init_espfix_cpu(void)
>>>> +{
>>>> +       int cpu = smp_processor_id();
>>>> +       unsigned long addr;
>>>> +       pgd_t pgd, *pgd_p;
>>>> +       pud_t pud, *pud_p;
>>>> +       pmd_t pmd, *pmd_p;
>>>> +       pte_t pte, *pte_p;
>>>> +       int n;
>>>> +       void *stack_page;
>>>> +
>>>> +       cpu = smp_processor_id();
>>>> +       BUG_ON(cpu >= (8 << 20)/ESPFIX_STACK_SIZE);
>>>> +
>>>> +       /* We only have to do this once... */
>>>> +       if (likely(this_cpu_read(espfix_stack)))
>>>> +               return;         /* Already initialized */
>>>> +
>>>> +       addr = espfix_base_addr(cpu);
>>>> +
>>>> +       /* Did another CPU already set this up? */
>>>> +       if (likely(espfix_already_there(addr)))
>>>> +               goto done;
>>>> +
>>>> +       mutex_lock(&espfix_init_mutex);
>>>> +
>>>> +       if (unlikely(espfix_already_there(addr)))
>>>> +               goto unlock_done;
>>>
>>> Wouldn't it be simpler to just have a single static bool to indicate
>>> whether espfix is initialized?
>>
>> No, you would have to allocate memory for every possible CPU, which I
>> wanted to avoid in case NR_CPUS >> actual CPUs (I don't know if we
>have
>> already done that for percpu, but we *should* if we haven't yet.)
>>
>>> Even better: why not separate the percpu init from the pagetable
>init
>>> and just do the pagetable init once from main or even modify_ldt?
>>
>> It needs to be done once per CPU.  I wanted to do it late enough that
>> the page allocator is fully functional, so we don't have to do the
>ugly
>> hacks to call one allocator or another as the percpu initialization
>code
>> does (otherwise it would have made a lot of sense to co-locate with
>percpu.)
>
>Hmm.  I guess espfix_already_there isn't so bad.  Given that, in the
>worst case, I think there are 16 pages allocated, it might make sense
>to just track which of those 16 pages have been allocated in some
>array.  That whole array would probably be shorter than the test of
>espfix_already_there.  Or am I still failing to understand how this
>works?
>
>--Andy

-- 
Sent from my mobile phone.  Please pardon brevity and lack of formatting.

  reply	other threads:[~2014-04-22  0:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 136+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-04-11 17:36 [tip:x86/urgent] x86-64, modify_ldt: Ban 16-bit segments on 64-bit kernels tip-bot for H. Peter Anvin
2014-04-11 18:12 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-11 18:20   ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-04-11 18:27 ` Brian Gerst
2014-04-11 18:29   ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-04-11 18:35     ` Brian Gerst
2014-04-11 21:16     ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-11 21:24       ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-04-11 21:53         ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-11 21:59           ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-04-11 22:15             ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-11 22:18               ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-04-13  4:20           ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-04-12 23:26         ` Alexander van Heukelum
2014-04-12 23:31           ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-04-12 23:49             ` Alexander van Heukelum
2014-04-13  0:03               ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-04-13  1:25                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-13  1:29                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-13  3:00                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-04-11 21:34       ` Linus Torvalds
2014-04-11 18:41   ` Linus Torvalds
2014-04-11 18:45     ` Brian Gerst
2014-04-11 18:50       ` Linus Torvalds
2014-04-12  4:44         ` Brian Gerst
2014-04-12 17:18           ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-04-12 19:35             ` Borislav Petkov
2014-04-12 19:44               ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-04-12 20:11                 ` Borislav Petkov
2014-04-12 20:34                   ` Brian Gerst
2014-04-12 20:59                     ` Borislav Petkov
2014-04-12 21:13                       ` Brian Gerst
2014-04-12 21:40                         ` Borislav Petkov
2014-04-14  7:21                           ` Ingo Molnar
2014-04-14  9:44                             ` Borislav Petkov
2014-04-14  9:47                               ` Ingo Molnar
2014-04-12 21:53                 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-04-12 22:25                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-04-13  2:56                     ` Andi Kleen
2014-04-13  3:02                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-04-13  3:13                       ` Linus Torvalds
2014-04-12 20:29             ` Brian Gerst
2014-04-14  7:48         ` Alexandre Julliard
2014-05-07  9:18           ` Sven Joachim
2014-05-07 10:18             ` Borislav Petkov
2014-05-07 16:57             ` Linus Torvalds
2014-05-07 17:09               ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-05-07 17:50                 ` Alexandre Julliard
2014-05-08  6:43                 ` Sven Joachim
2014-05-08 13:50                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-05-08 20:13                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-05-08 20:40                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-05-12 13:16               ` Josh Boyer
2014-05-12 16:52                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-05-14 23:43               ` [tip:x86/urgent] x86-64, modify_ldt: Make support for 16-bit segments a runtime option tip-bot for Linus Torvalds
2014-04-11 18:46     ` [tip:x86/urgent] x86-64, modify_ldt: Ban 16-bit segments on 64-bit kernels H. Peter Anvin
2014-04-14  7:27       ` Ingo Molnar
2014-04-14 15:45         ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-04-13  2:54     ` Andi Kleen
2014-04-21 22:47 ` [PATCH] x86-64: espfix for 64-bit mode *PROTOTYPE* H. Peter Anvin
2014-04-21 23:19   ` Andrew Lutomirski
2014-04-21 23:29     ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-04-22  0:37       ` Andrew Lutomirski
2014-04-22  0:53         ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2014-04-22  1:06           ` Andrew Lutomirski
2014-04-22  1:14             ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-04-22  1:28               ` Andrew Lutomirski
2014-04-22  1:47                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-04-22  1:53                   ` Andrew Lutomirski
2014-04-22 11:23                     ` Borislav Petkov
2014-04-22 14:46                       ` Borislav Petkov
2014-04-22 16:03                         ` Andrew Lutomirski
2014-04-22 16:10                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-04-22 16:33                             ` Andrew Lutomirski
2014-04-22 16:43                               ` Linus Torvalds
2014-04-22 17:00                                 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2014-04-22 17:04                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2014-04-22 17:11                                     ` Andrew Lutomirski
2014-04-22 17:15                                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-04-23  9:54                                         ` One Thousand Gnomes
2014-04-23 15:53                                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-04-23 17:08                                             ` Andrew Lutomirski
2014-04-23 17:16                                               ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-04-23 17:25                                                 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2014-04-23 17:28                                                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-04-23 17:45                                                     ` Andrew Lutomirski
2014-04-22 17:19                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2014-04-22 17:29                                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-04-22 17:46                                           ` Andrew Lutomirski
2014-04-22 17:59                                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-04-22 18:03                                             ` Brian Gerst
2014-04-22 18:06                                               ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-04-22 18:17                                                 ` Brian Gerst
2014-04-22 18:51                                                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-04-22 19:55                                                     ` Brian Gerst
2014-04-22 20:17                                                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-04-22 23:08                                                         ` Brian Gerst
2014-04-22 23:39                                                     ` Andi Kleen
2014-04-22 23:40                                                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-04-22 17:11                                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-04-22 17:26                                       ` Borislav Petkov
2014-04-22 17:29                                         ` Andrew Lutomirski
2014-04-22 19:27                                           ` Borislav Petkov
2014-04-23  6:24                                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-04-23  8:57                                       ` Alexandre Julliard
2014-04-22 17:09                                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-04-22 17:20                                     ` Andrew Lutomirski
2014-04-22 17:24                                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-04-22 11:25   ` Borislav Petkov
2014-04-23  1:17   ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-04-23  1:23     ` Andrew Lutomirski
2014-04-23  1:42       ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-04-23 14:24         ` Boris Ostrovsky
2014-04-23 16:56           ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-04-28 13:04             ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-04-25 21:02     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-04-25 21:16       ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-04-24  4:13   ` comex
2014-04-24  4:53     ` Andrew Lutomirski
2014-04-24 22:24       ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-04-24 22:31         ` Andrew Lutomirski
2014-04-24 22:37           ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-04-24 22:43             ` Andrew Lutomirski
2014-04-28 23:05       ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-04-28 23:08         ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-04-29  0:02           ` Andrew Lutomirski
2014-04-29  0:15             ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-04-29  0:20             ` Andrew Lutomirski
2014-04-29  2:38               ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-04-29  2:44                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-04-29  3:45                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-04-29  3:47                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-04-29  4:36                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-04-29  7:14                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-04-25 12:02   ` Pavel Machek
2014-04-25 21:20     ` H. Peter Anvin

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