From: Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
"Liam R. Howlett" <liam.howlett@oracle.com>,
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Sleep waiting for an rwsem to be unlocked
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2024 20:54:52 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1e5cf85b-9fa1-42ad-8cfa-46d83bdefda3@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZZ29q3x3I0Z3dQ8y@casper.infradead.org>
On 1/9/24 16:42, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 09, 2024 at 04:04:08PM -0500, Waiman Long wrote:
>> On 1/9/24 12:12, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
>>> The problem we're trying to solve is a lock-free walk of
>>> /proc/$pid/maps. If the process is modifying the VMAs at the same time
>>> the reader is walking them, it can see garbage. For page faults, we
>>> handle this by taking the mmap_lock for read and retrying the page fault
>>> (excluding any further modifications).
>>>
>>> We don't want to take that approach for the maps file. The monitoring
>>> task may have a significantly lower process priority, and so taking
>>> the mmap_lock for read can block it for a significant period of time.
>>> The obvious answer is to do some kind of backoff+sleep. But we already
>>> have a wait queue, so why not use it?
>>>
>>> I haven't done the rwbase version; this is just a demonstration of what
>>> we could do. It's also untested other than by compilation. It might
>>> well be missing something.
>> It is not clear what exactly is the purpose of this new API. Are you just
> ... really? I wrote it out in the part you quoted, and I wrote it out
> differently in the kernel-doc for the function:
>
> + * rwsem_wait_killable - Wait for current write lock holder to release lock
> + * @sem: The semaphore to wait on.
> + *
> + * This is equivalent to calling down_read(); up_read() but avoids the
> + * possibility that the thread will be preempted while holding the lock
> + * causing threads that want to take the lock for writes to block. The
> + * intended use case is for lockless readers who notice an inconsistent
> + * state and want to wait for the current writer to finish.
>
> Something I forgot to add was that we only guarantee that _a_ writer
> finished; another writer may have the lock when the function returns.
OK, I focused on the commit log and it didn't mention that. I also
looked at __wait_read_common() and hadn't paid much attention to the
other wrappers.
BTW, how did the a lockless reader notices an inconsistent state? Will
something like a write sequence count help? Though that will require
increasing the size of the rwsem.
>
>> waiting in the rwsem wait queue until it gets waken up without taking a read
>> or write lock? I see two issues at the moment.
>>
>> 1) The handoff processing should exclude the new RWSEM_WAITING_FOR_RELEASE
>> waiter types.
> Hmm. I thought I'd done that by only incrementing 'woken' for
> RWSEM_WAITING_FOR_READ types.
Some minor change is needed in case the RWSEM_WAITING_FOR_RELEASE waiter
is the first one in the queue to be woken up.
>
>> 2) If the rwsem is free, it should call rwsem_wake() again to wake up the
>> next waiter, like what is being done in up_write().
> because the wait queue might have a waiter followed by a writer? I
> think calling rwsem_wake() again is probably a bad idea as it will
> defeat the MAX_READERS_WAKEUP limit. Probably rwsem_mark_wake()
> needs to handle that case itself; maybe something like this?
I am talking about the case that the new waiter is the only one to be
waking up and the rwsem has no reader or writer owner.
I also think that __wait_read_common() should be merged with
rwsem_down_read_slowpath() in some way to minimize duplicated code.
>
> +++ b/kernel/locking/rwsem.c
> @@ -419,6 +419,7 @@ static void rwsem_mark_wake(struct rw_semaphore *sem,
>
> lockdep_assert_held(&sem->wait_lock);
>
> +again:
> /*
> * Take a peek at the queue head waiter such that we can determine
> * the wakeup(s) to perform.
> @@ -542,6 +543,12 @@ static void rwsem_mark_wake(struct rw_semaphore *sem,
> */
> if (oldcount & RWSEM_FLAG_HANDOFF)
> adjustment -= RWSEM_FLAG_HANDOFF;
> + } else {
> + /*
> + * Everybody we woke was a waiter, not a reader. Wake the
> + * first writer instead.
> + */
> + goto again;
> }
>
> if (adjustment)
That will probably work.
Cheers,
Longman
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-01-10 1:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-01-09 17:12 Matthew Wilcox
2024-01-09 21:04 ` Waiman Long
2024-01-09 21:42 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-01-10 1:54 ` Waiman Long [this message]
2024-01-11 11:22 ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-01-15 18:44 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
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