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From: john stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [GIT pull] timers fixes for 2.6.31
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 15:36:36 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1f1b08da0908061536o57cebeb6r2f522cb3c5419e1@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090731123711.GA5421@elte.hu>

On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 5:37 AM, Ingo Molnar<mingo@elte.hu> wrote:
> [ Markus, John: the fix looks right for .31 but i think there's two
>  small structural problems with this code, which might have
>  contributed to the bug to happen to begin with:
>
>  Firstly, ->mult_orig is a slight misnomer - if it was named
>  properly we wouldnt even need the comments to explain how to use
>  and update it. It's the unadjusted multiplicator while _orig
>  patterns in the kernel generally suggest some sort of save/restore
>  pattern (which this is not).
>
>  I'd suggest to rename it to ->mult_unadjusted, ->mult_raw or
>  ->mult_static instead. This field has not gotten into many
>  clocksource drivers yet so it's easy to do. For .32 obviously.
>
>  Secondly, the broader design question is: why are clocksource
>  drivers mucking around with NTP details? Whether NTP is running
>  should be a transparent detail to drivers and if such details are
>  visible in low level driver (which they are in
>  arch/arm/plat-omap/common.c et al) that's sign of uncleanliness.
>  Mind improving that? (for .32 too)

Well, the clocksources aren't really mucking with NTP details, but NTP
mucks with the clocksource.  And so this was a way to try to preserve
the original mult value,  and I'll admit was a bit stapled on.  This
mostly comes from how the clocksource structure has swelled over time
to include quite a bit of timekeeping specific information.

Splitting this up has been on my list for awhile, but I've never
gotten to it. However, Martin Schwidefsky has been doing a great job
with his latest patches cleaning up some of uglier parts of the
timekeeping/clocksource interactions. There is still lots of  changes
I'd like to see, but they will take time as we still haven't gotten
all the arches over to GENERIC_TIME, so some cruft has to stick
around.   But Martin's patches are a great big step towards it and
hopefully his patches will be ready for .32.

thanks
-john

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-08-06 22:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-07-30 19:58 Thomas Gleixner
2009-07-30 23:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-07-31 10:45   ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-07-31 12:37   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-07-31 16:40     ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-08-06 22:36     ` john stultz [this message]
2009-08-07  8:18       ` Martin Schwidefsky
2009-08-07 20:28         ` john stultz

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