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From: "Moger, Babu" <bmoger@amd.com>
To: Reinette Chatre <reinette.chatre@intel.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 24/24] x86/resctrl: Introduce interface to modify assignment states of the groups
Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2024 14:36:46 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1f7addbf-51e3-7f24-ad64-b8a6d9c5e0ba@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4c212746-6d61-44aa-abc6-2d2155ee538f@intel.com>

Hi Reinette,

On 10/4/2024 11:52 AM, Reinette Chatre wrote:
> Hi Babu,
> 
> On 10/4/24 9:38 AM, Moger, Babu wrote:
>> Hi Reinette,
>>
>> On 10/3/2024 9:17 PM, Reinette Chatre wrote:
>>> Hi Babu,
>>>
>>> On 10/3/24 6:11 PM, Moger, Babu wrote:
>>>> Hi Reinette,
>>>>
>>>> On 10/2/2024 1:19 PM, Reinette Chatre wrote:
>>>>> Hi Babu,
>>>>>
>>>>> On 9/27/24 10:47 AM, Moger, Babu wrote:
>>>>>> On 9/19/2024 12:59 PM, Reinette Chatre wrote:
>>>>>>> On 9/4/24 3:21 PM, Babu Moger wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> v7: Simplified the parsing (strsep(&token, "//") in rdtgroup_mbm_assign_control_write().
>>>>>>>>         Added mutex lock in rdtgroup_mbm_assign_control_write() while processing.
>>>>>>>>         Renamed rdtgroup_find_grp to rdtgroup_find_grp_by_name.
>>>>>>>>         Fixed rdtgroup_str_to_mon_state to return error for invalid flags.
>>>>>>>>         Simplified the calls rdtgroup_assign_cntr by merging few functions earlier.
>>>>>>>>         Removed ABMC reference in FS code.
>>>>>>>>         Reinette commented about handling the combination of flags like 'lt_' and '_lt'.
>>>>>>>>         Not sure if we need to change the behaviour here. Processed them sequencially right now.
>>>>>>>>         Users have the liberty to pass the flags. Restricting it might be a problem later.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Could you please give an example of what problem may be encountered later? An assignment
>>>>>>> like "domain=_lt" seems like a contradiction to me since user space essentially asks
>>>>>>> for "None of the MBM events" as well as "MBM total event" and "MBM local event".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I agree it is contradiction. But user is the one who decides to do that. I think we should allow it. Also, there is some value to it as well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "domain=_lt" This will also reset the counters if the total and local events are assigned earlier this action.
>>>>>
>>>>> The last sentence is not clear to me. Could you please elaborate what
>>>>> you mean with "are assigned earlier this action"?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I think I confused you here. "domain=_lt" is equivalent to "domain=lt".  My reasoning is handling all the combination in the code adds code complexity and leave it the user what he wants to do.
>>>
>>> hmmm ... and how about "domain=lt_"? Do you think this should also be equivalent to
>>> "domain=lt" or perhaps an expectation that counters should be assigned to the two events
>>> and then immediately unassigned?
>>
>> Yes. "domain=lt_" should be "domain=lt".
>>
>>>
>>> Giving user such flexibility may be interpreted as the assignment seen as acting
>>> sequentially through the flags provided. Ideally the interface should behave in
>>> a predictable way if the goal is to provide flexibility to the user.
>>>
>>
>> My only concern is adding the check now and reverting it back later.
>> Basically process the flags sequentially and don't differentiate between the flags. I feel it fits the predictable behavior. No?
> 
> This is the point I was trying to make. If flags are processed sequentially then it would be
> predictable behavior and if that is documented expectation then that should be ok. The problem
> that I want to highlight is that if predictable sequential processing is the goal then
> "domain=_lt" cannot be interpreted the same as "domain="lt_". When flags in "domain=lt_"
> are processed sequentially then final state should be "domain=_", no?

Yes. that is correct.
> 
> If sequential processing is done then "domain=_lt" means "unassign all counters followed
> by assign of counter to local MBM monitoring, followed by assign of counter to total MBM
> monitoring". Similarly, "domain=lt_" means "assign a counter to local MBM monitoring, then
> assign a counter to total MBM monitoring, then unassign all counters".

Yes. That is correct.
> 
> If this sequential processing is the goal then the implementation would still need to be
> adapted. Consider, for example, "domain=lt" ... with sequential processing the user
> indicates/expects that "local MBM monitoring" has priority if there is only one counter
> available, but the current implementation does not process it sequentially and would end up
> assigning counter to "total MBM monitoring" first.

Sure. Lets accommodate the sequential processing. Process the  flags in 
the order it is provided. I need to make few changes to 
rdtgroup_process_flags() to address it. Hopefully, it can be done 
without much complexity. Thanks
-- 
- Babu Moger

  reply	other threads:[~2024-10-04 19:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-09-04 22:21 [PATCH v7 00/24] x86/resctrl : Support AMD Assignable Bandwidth Monitoring Counters (ABMC) Babu Moger
2024-09-04 22:21 ` [PATCH v7 01/24] x86/cpufeatures: Add support for " Babu Moger
2024-09-04 22:21 ` [PATCH v7 02/24] x86/resctrl: Add ABMC feature in the command line options Babu Moger
2024-09-19 16:00   ` Reinette Chatre
2024-09-23 14:21     ` Moger, Babu
2024-09-04 22:21 ` [PATCH v7 03/24] x86/resctrl: Consolidate monitoring related data from rdt_resource Babu Moger
2024-09-19 16:03   ` Reinette Chatre
2024-09-04 22:21 ` [PATCH v7 04/24] x86/resctrl: Detect Assignable Bandwidth Monitoring feature details Babu Moger
2024-09-19 16:16   ` Reinette Chatre
2024-09-23 14:37     ` Moger, Babu
2024-09-04 22:21 ` [PATCH v7 05/24] x86/resctrl: Introduce resctrl_file_fflags_init() to initialize fflags Babu Moger
2024-09-04 22:21 ` [PATCH v7 06/24] x86/resctrl: Add support to enable/disable AMD ABMC feature Babu Moger
2024-09-19 16:22   ` Reinette Chatre
2024-09-23 15:30     ` Moger, Babu
2024-09-04 22:21 ` [PATCH v7 07/24] x86/resctrl: Introduce the interface to display monitor mode Babu Moger
2024-09-19 16:28   ` Reinette Chatre
2024-09-23 16:01     ` Moger, Babu
2024-09-04 22:21 ` [PATCH v7 08/24] x86/resctrl: Introduce interface to display number of monitoring counters Babu Moger
2024-09-19 16:32   ` Reinette Chatre
2024-09-23 16:23     ` Moger, Babu
2024-09-04 22:21 ` [PATCH v7 09/24] x86/resctrl: Introduce bitmap mbm_cntr_free_map to track assignable counters Babu Moger
2024-09-19 16:42   ` Reinette Chatre
2024-09-23 18:33     ` Moger, Babu
2024-09-23 22:28       ` Reinette Chatre
2024-09-24 13:58         ` Moger, Babu
2024-09-24 16:25   ` Peter Newman
2024-09-24 17:01     ` Moger, Babu
2024-09-04 22:21 ` [PATCH v7 10/24] x86/resctrl: Introduce mbm_total_cfg and mbm_local_cfg in struct rdt_hw_mon_domain Babu Moger
2024-09-19 16:51   ` Reinette Chatre
2024-09-23 18:43     ` Moger, Babu
2024-09-04 22:21 ` [PATCH v7 11/24] x86/resctrl: Remove MSR reading of event configuration value Babu Moger
2024-09-19 16:55   ` Reinette Chatre
2024-09-23 18:45     ` Moger, Babu
2024-09-04 22:21 ` [PATCH v7 12/24] x86/resctrl: Introduce mbm_cntr_map to track counters at domain Babu Moger
2024-09-04 22:21 ` [PATCH v7 13/24] x86/resctrl: Add data structures and definitions for ABMC assignment Babu Moger
2024-09-19 17:08   ` Reinette Chatre
2024-09-23 20:21     ` Moger, Babu
2024-09-23 22:30       ` Reinette Chatre
2024-09-24 14:51         ` Moger, Babu
2024-09-04 22:21 ` [PATCH v7 14/24] x86/resctrl: Introduce cntr_id in mongroup for assignments Babu Moger
2024-09-04 22:21 ` [PATCH v7 15/24] x86/resctrl: Implement resctrl_arch_assign_cntr to assign a counter with ABMC Babu Moger
2024-09-19 17:13   ` Reinette Chatre
2024-09-23 21:03     ` Moger, Babu
2024-09-23 22:29       ` Reinette Chatre
2024-09-24 14:07         ` Moger, Babu
2024-09-04 22:21 ` [PATCH v7 16/24] x86/resctrl: Add the interface to assign/update counter assignment Babu Moger
2024-09-19 17:20   ` Reinette Chatre
2024-09-26 16:28     ` Moger, Babu
2024-09-26 16:46       ` Reinette Chatre
2024-09-26 16:59         ` Moger, Babu
2024-09-27  1:48           ` Reinette Chatre
2024-09-04 22:21 ` [PATCH v7 17/24] x86/resctrl: Add the interface to unassign a MBM counter Babu Moger
2024-09-19 17:26   ` Reinette Chatre
2024-09-26 16:56     ` Moger, Babu
2024-09-04 22:21 ` [PATCH v7 18/24] x86/resctrl: Auto Assign/unassign counters when mbm_cntr_assign is enabled Babu Moger
2024-09-19 17:29   ` Reinette Chatre
2024-09-26 18:48     ` Moger, Babu
2024-09-04 22:21 ` [PATCH v7 19/24] x86/resctrl: Report "Unassigned" for MBM events in mbm_cntr_assign mode Babu Moger
2024-09-19 17:31   ` Reinette Chatre
2024-09-26 19:16     ` Moger, Babu
2024-09-27  1:50       ` Reinette Chatre
2024-09-27 13:40         ` Moger, Babu
2024-09-04 22:21 ` [PATCH v7 20/24] x86/resctrl: Introduce the interface to switch between monitor modes Babu Moger
2024-09-19 17:38   ` Reinette Chatre
2024-09-26 19:39     ` Moger, Babu
2024-09-27  1:51       ` Reinette Chatre
2024-09-27 13:26         ` Moger, Babu
2024-09-27 15:07           ` Reinette Chatre
2024-09-04 22:21 ` [PATCH v7 21/24] x86/resctrl: Configure mbm_cntr_assign mode if supported Babu Moger
2024-09-19 17:43   ` Reinette Chatre
2024-09-27 14:37     ` Moger, Babu
2024-09-04 22:21 ` [PATCH v7 22/24] x86/resctrl: Update assignments on event configuration changes Babu Moger
2024-09-19 17:45   ` Reinette Chatre
2024-09-27 16:22     ` Moger, Babu
2024-10-02 18:20       ` Reinette Chatre
2024-10-04  0:51         ` Moger, Babu
2024-10-04  2:17           ` Reinette Chatre
2024-10-04 15:02             ` Moger, Babu
2024-10-04 15:53               ` Reinette Chatre
2024-10-08  0:01               ` Moger, Babu
2024-09-04 22:21 ` [PATCH v7 23/24] x86/resctrl: Introduce interface to list assignment states of all the groups Babu Moger
2024-09-19 17:53   ` Reinette Chatre
2024-09-27 17:06     ` Moger, Babu
2024-09-04 22:21 ` [PATCH v7 24/24] x86/resctrl: Introduce interface to modify assignment states of " Babu Moger
2024-09-19 17:59   ` Reinette Chatre
2024-09-27 17:47     ` Moger, Babu
2024-10-02 18:19       ` Reinette Chatre
2024-10-04  1:11         ` Moger, Babu
2024-10-04  2:17           ` Reinette Chatre
2024-10-04 16:38             ` Moger, Babu
2024-10-04 16:52               ` Reinette Chatre
2024-10-04 19:36                 ` Moger, Babu [this message]
2024-10-04 21:09                   ` Reinette Chatre
2024-10-05  0:23                     ` Moger, Babu
2024-09-19 18:00 ` [PATCH v7 00/24] x86/resctrl : Support AMD Assignable Bandwidth Monitoring Counters (ABMC) Reinette Chatre
2024-09-27 18:11   ` Moger, Babu

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