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From: Lars-Peter Clausen <lars@metafoo.de>
To: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>
Cc: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, gustavoars@kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, shengjiu.wang@nxp.com,
	tiwai@suse.com, pierre-louis.bossart@linux.intel.com,
	xiang@kernel.org, Robin Gong <yibin.gong@nxp.com>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 ] ALSA: core: memalloc: add page alignment for iram
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2020 15:57:02 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1fc18b56-effa-9dbc-8263-00c632e163e7@metafoo.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <s5hwnxgjysq.wl-tiwai@suse.de>

On 12/17/20 3:24 PM, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Dec 2020 14:16:48 +0100,
> Lars-Peter Clausen wrote:
>> On 12/17/20 12:06 PM, Takashi Iwai wrote:
>>> On Thu, 17 Dec 2020 11:59:23 +0100,
>>> Lars-Peter Clausen wrote:
>>>> On 12/17/20 10:55 AM, Takashi Iwai wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 17 Dec 2020 10:43:45 +0100,
>>>>> Lars-Peter Clausen wrote:
>>>>>> On 12/17/20 5:15 PM, Robin Gong wrote:
>>>>>>> Since mmap for userspace is based on page alignment, add page alignment
>>>>>>> for iram alloc from pool, otherwise, some good data located in the same
>>>>>>> page of dmab->area maybe touched wrongly by userspace like pulseaudio.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I wonder, do we also have to align size to be a multiple of PAGE_SIZE
>>>>>> to avoid leaking unrelated data?
>>>>> Hm, a good question.  Basically the PCM buffer size itself shouldn't
>>>>> be influenced by that (i.e. no hw-constraint or such is needed), but
>>>>> the padding should be cleared indeed.  I somehow left those to the
>>>>> allocator side, but maybe it's safer to clear the whole buffer in
>>>>> sound/core/memalloc.c commonly.
>>>> What I meant was that most of the APIs that we use to allocate memory
>>>> work on a PAGE_SIZE granularity. I.e. if you request a buffer that
>>>> where the size is not a multiple of PAGE_SIZE internally they will
>>>> still allocate a buffer that is a multiple of PAGE_SIZE and mark the
>>>> unused bytes as reserved.
>>>>
>>>> But I believe that is not the case gen_pool_dma_alloc(). It will
>>>> happily allocate those extra bytes to some other allocation request.
>>>>
>>>> That we need to zero out the reserved bytes even for those other APIs
>>>> is a very good additional point!
>>>>
>>>> I looked at this a few years ago and I'm pretty sure that we cleared
>>>> out the allocated area, but I can't find that anymore in the current
>>>> code. Which is not so great I guess.
>>> IIRC, we used GFP_ZERO in the past for the normal page allocations,
>>> but this was dropped as it's no longer supported or so.
>>>
>>> Also, we clear out the PCM buffer in hw_params call, but this is for
>>> the requested size, not the actual allocated size, hence the padding
>>> bytes will remain uncleared.
>> Ah! That memset() in hw_params is new.
>>> So I believe it's safer to add an extra memset() like my test patch.
>> Yea, we definitely want that.
>>
>> Do we care about leaking audio samples from a previous
>> application. I.e. application 'A' allocates a buffer plays back some
>> data and then closes the device again. Application 'B' then opens the
>> same audio devices allocates a slightly smaller buffer, so that it
>> still uses the same number of pages. The buffer from the previous
>> allocation get reused, but the remainder of the last page wont get
>> cleared in hw_params().
> That's true.  On the second though, it might be better to extend that
> memset() in hw_params to assure clearing the whole allocated buffer.
> We can check runtime->dma_buffer_p->bytes for the actual size.
>
> Also, in the PCM memory allocator, we make sure that the allocation is
> performed for page size.
>
>
> diff --git a/sound/core/pcm_native.c b/sound/core/pcm_native.c
> index 47b155a49226..6aabad070abf 100644
> --- a/sound/core/pcm_native.c
> +++ b/sound/core/pcm_native.c
> @@ -755,8 +755,15 @@ static int snd_pcm_hw_params(struct snd_pcm_substream *substream,
>   		runtime->boundary *= 2;
>   
>   	/* clear the buffer for avoiding possible kernel info leaks */
> -	if (runtime->dma_area && !substream->ops->copy_user)
> -		memset(runtime->dma_area, 0, runtime->dma_bytes);
> +	if (runtime->dma_area && !substream->ops->copy_user) {
> +		size_t size;
> +
> +		if (runtime->dma_buffer_p)
> +			size = runtime->dma_buffer_p->bytes;
> +		else
> +			size = runtime->dma_bytes;

I'm not sure.

Not all drivers use snd_pcm_lib_malloc_pages() and 
runtime->dma_buffer_p->bytes might not be a multiple of PAGE_SIZE.

On the other hand if it is mmap-able, the underlying buffer must be a 
multiple of PAGE_SIZE. So a simple memset(..., PAGE_ALIGN(size)) should 
work.

But we'd risk breaking drivers that do not reserve the remainder of the 
page and use it for something else.

Maybe what we need is a check that runtime->dma_area is page aligned and 
runtime->dma_bytes is a multiple of PAGE_SIZE. With a warning at first 
and then turn this into a error a year later or so.

> +		memset(runtime->dma_area, 0, size);
> +	}
>   
>   	snd_pcm_timer_resolution_change(substream);
>   	snd_pcm_set_state(substream, SNDRV_PCM_STATE_SETUP);



  reply	other threads:[~2020-12-17 14:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-12-17 16:15 Robin Gong
2020-12-17  9:38 ` Takashi Iwai
2020-12-17  9:43 ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2020-12-17  9:55   ` Takashi Iwai
2020-12-17 10:14     ` Takashi Iwai
2020-12-17 10:44       ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2020-12-17 10:59     ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2020-12-17 11:06       ` Takashi Iwai
2020-12-17 13:16         ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2020-12-17 14:24           ` Takashi Iwai
2020-12-17 14:57             ` Lars-Peter Clausen [this message]
2020-12-17 15:18               ` Takashi Iwai
2020-12-17 15:38                 ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2020-12-17 16:28                   ` Takashi Iwai

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