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From: Jerome Brunet <jbrunet@baylibre.com>
To: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>
Cc: Andrew Lunn <andrew+netdev@lunn.ch>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
	Conor Dooley <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
	Chen-Yu Tsai <wens@kernel.org>,
	Jernej Skrabec <jernej.skrabec@gmail.com>,
	Samuel Holland <samuel@sholland.org>,
	Richard Cochran <richardcochran@gmail.com>,
	Maxime Ripard <mripard@kernel.org>,
	Maxime Coquelin <mcoquelin.stm32@gmail.com>,
	Alexandre Torgue <alexandre.torgue@foss.st.com>,
	Philipp Zabel <p.zabel@pengutronix.de>,
	Maxime Chevallier <maxime.chevallier@bootlin.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-sunxi@lists.linux.dev, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-stm32@st-md-mailman.stormreply.com,
	Andre Przywara <andre.przywara@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v3 0/5] net: stmmac: Add support for Allwinner A733 GMAC210
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2026 17:27:31 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1jv77u8yak.fsf@starbuckisacylon.baylibre.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5fae3b42-552a-458a-9710-927360e58c37@lunn.ch>

On jeu. 24 sept. 2026 at 14:54, Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch> wrote:

>> I've changed the phy-mode to plain rgmii which seems more in line with
>> what the PHY actually does.
>
> No, it is much messier than that.
>
> https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v6.15/source/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/net/ethernet-controller.yaml#L287
>
> rgmii-id is very likely to be correct, if you were using a sane PHY.

It is not the PCB doing the delays so rgmii-id it is (in DT) - got it.

I dunno what is sane or not, but the allwinner dwmac drivers do set some
delays. sun8i-dwmac and sun55i-dwmac do so, even before this change.

If I understand correctly :

"""
When the MAC implements the delay, it must ensure that the PHY does not
also implement the same delay. So it must modify the phy-mode it passes
to the PHY, removing the delay it has added. Failure to remove the delay
will result in a non-functioning link
"""

IOW when the gmac has *-internal-delay-ps set and honors them, it should
also amend phymode seen by PHY to make sure it does not add its own
delays, should it ever be fixed ?

>
> But this PHY is going to cause you lots of problems.

We don't get to choose I'm afraid :)

>
>     Andrew
>

-- 
Jerome

  reply	other threads:[~2026-09-24 15:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-23 20:47 Jerome Brunet
2026-09-23 20:47 ` [PATCH net-next v3 1/5] dt-bindings: net: sun8i-emac: Add A733 GMAC210 compatible Jerome Brunet
2026-09-23 20:47 ` [PATCH net-next v3 2/5] net: stmmac: sun55i: Add per-compatible match data Jerome Brunet
2026-09-23 20:47 ` [PATCH net-next v3 3/5] net: stmmac: sun55i: Make the delay step configurable Jerome Brunet
2026-09-24  2:30   ` Andrew Lunn
2026-09-24  8:53     ` Jerome Brunet
2026-09-24 12:55       ` Andrew Lunn
2026-09-23 20:47 ` [PATCH net-next v3 4/5] net: stmmac: sun55i: Support TX delay extension bits Jerome Brunet
2026-09-23 20:47 ` [PATCH net-next v3 5/5] net: stmmac: sun55i: Add support for Allwinner A733 GMAC210 Jerome Brunet
2026-09-23 22:15 ` [PATCH net-next v3 0/5] net: stmmac: " Andrew Lunn
2026-09-23 22:19 ` Andrew Lunn
2026-09-24  8:40   ` Jerome Brunet
2026-09-24 12:54     ` Andrew Lunn
2026-09-24 15:27       ` Jerome Brunet [this message]
2026-09-24 16:02         ` Andrew Lunn

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