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From: "Theodore Y. Ts'o" <tytso@MIT.EDU>
To: Tim Riker <Tim@Rikers.org>
Cc: Ben Ford <bford@talontech.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: non-gcc linux? (was Re: Where did kgcc go in 2.4.0-test10?)
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 15:37:36 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200011022037.PAA21436@tsx-prime.MIT.EDU> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Tim Riker's message of Thu, 02 Nov 2000 12:31:51 -0700, <3A01C127.F335E92A@Rikers.org>

   Date: 	Thu, 02 Nov 2000 12:31:51 -0700
   From: Tim Riker <Tim@Rikers.org>

   Me or Alan? I did not mean this as a dig. I feel strongly that one
   should have the choice here. I do not choose to enforce my beliefs on
   anyone else. I am suggesting only that others should provide the same
   courtesy. I truly meant "Thank you for you opinion". I feel the
   community benefits from the differing opinions contained within it.

Yes, but that argument doesn't hold once you start asking the everyone
to work on making that choice available.  The question that some part of
the community may ask is --- why should we help you make it possible to
use a propietary C compiler?  

Choice also implies a choice not to work on things which help some
particular person's pet cause, whether that is C++ kernel code, or
propietary C compilers.  If it makes the code harder to maintain or more
complex, it impacts everyone, and it's fair to ask the question whether
or not the feeling "one should have the choice here" is worth the cost
which you're asking everyone to bear.

					- Ted
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  reply	other threads:[~2000-11-02 20:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 109+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2000-11-01 22:57 Where did kgcc go in 2.4.0-test10 ? Kurt Garloff
2000-11-01 22:40 ` J . A . Magallon
2000-11-01 22:47   ` David S. Miller
2000-11-01 22:45     ` Gérard Roudier
2000-11-01 23:07     ` Ben Pfaff
2000-11-01 23:11     ` Alan Cox
2000-11-01 23:15       ` Jeff Garzik
2000-11-01 23:12     ` David S. Miller
2000-11-01 23:21     ` Tom Rini
2000-11-01 23:30       ` Alan Cox
2000-11-01 23:36         ` Tom Rini
2000-11-02  0:22         ` Jeff Garzik
2000-11-02  4:50           ` Mike Galbraith
2000-11-02  4:59             ` Jeff Garzik
2000-11-01 23:29     ` David S. Miller
2000-11-01 23:45       ` David S. Miller
2000-11-02  0:00         ` Cort Dougan
2000-11-02  0:54           ` Alan Cox
2000-11-02  0:11         ` David S. Miller
2000-11-02  0:32           ` H. Peter Anvin
2000-11-02  0:59             ` Bill Nottingham
2000-11-02 18:55             ` non-gcc linux? (was Re: Where did kgcc go in 2.4.0-test10?) Tim Riker
2000-11-02 19:07               ` Alan Cox
2000-11-02 19:07                 ` Tim Riker
2000-11-02 19:24                   ` Ben Ford
2000-11-02 19:31                     ` Tim Riker
2000-11-02 20:37                       ` Theodore Y. Ts'o [this message]
2000-11-02 20:53                         ` Tim Riker
2000-11-02 21:06                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2000-11-02 21:21                             ` non-gcc linux? Tim Riker
2000-11-02 22:46                           ` non-gcc linux? (was Re: Where did kgcc go in 2.4.0-test10?) Theodore Y. Ts'o
2000-11-02 23:16                             ` Tim Riker
2000-11-03 12:02                           ` Martin Dalecki
2000-11-04 11:30                           ` Kai Henningsen
2000-11-02 20:53                   ` Alan Cox
2000-11-02 21:04                     ` Tim Riker
2000-11-02 21:17                       ` Alan Cox
2000-11-02 21:23                         ` Andi Kleen
2000-11-02 21:27                           ` non-gcc linux? Tim Riker
2000-11-02 21:41                             ` Andi Kleen
2000-11-02 21:43                               ` Tim Riker
2000-11-03  7:21                             ` Gábor Lénárt
2000-11-04 11:39                               ` Kai Henningsen
2000-11-04 11:37                       ` non-gcc linux? (was Re: Where did kgcc go in 2.4.0-test10?) Kai Henningsen
2000-11-07 16:33                   ` Jes Sorensen
2000-11-07 20:52                     ` Tim Riker
2000-11-07 21:06                       ` Richard B. Johnson
2000-11-07 22:08                         ` David Lang
2000-11-07 21:36                           ` Richard B. Johnson
2000-11-08  0:04                       ` yodaiken
2000-11-02 19:18                 ` Andi Kleen
2000-11-02 19:17                   ` non-gcc linux? Tim Riker
2000-11-02 19:52                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-11-02 20:00                       ` Tim Riker
2000-11-02 20:29                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-11-02 22:23                         ` D. Hugh Redelmeier
2000-11-02 22:31                           ` Jeff Garzik
2000-11-03 22:02                             ` D. Hugh Redelmeier
2000-11-04  5:34                   ` non-gcc linux? (was Re: Where did kgcc go in 2.4.0-test10?) Aaron Sethman
2000-11-04  9:18                     ` non-gcc linux? Tim Riker
2000-11-04 10:58                       ` Alan Cox
2000-11-05 20:52                         ` Tim Riker
2000-11-05 21:06                           ` Jakub Jelinek
2000-11-05 21:18                             ` Tim Riker
2000-11-05 22:42                             ` Marc Lehmann
2000-11-05 23:05                               ` Tim Riker
2000-11-06  0:05                                 ` Marc Lehmann
2000-11-06  8:53                                 ` Thomas Pornin
2000-11-05 23:26                               ` Ion Badulescu
2000-11-06  6:34                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2000-11-05 22:46                             ` Alan Cox
2000-11-05 22:45                           ` Alan Cox
2000-11-05 22:52                             ` Tim Riker
2000-11-04 12:20                     ` Kai Henningsen
2000-11-06 17:14                     ` non-gcc linux? (was Re: Where did kgcc go in 2.4.0-test10?) Ralf Baechle
2000-11-02 20:21               ` Andi Kleen
2000-11-02 20:27                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2000-11-05 13:03                 ` Kai Henningsen
2000-11-03 11:33               ` Thomas Pornin
2000-11-04 11:19               ` Kai Henningsen
2000-11-04 12:24             ` Kai Henningsen
2000-11-05  3:28               ` Michael Meissner
2000-11-02  0:21         ` Where did kgcc go in 2.4.0-test10 ? Nathan Paul Simons
2000-11-02  2:42         ` Marc Lehmann
2000-11-02 21:24         ` Gérard Roudier
2000-11-02 22:37           ` David S. Miller
2000-11-01 23:54       ` Cort Dougan
2000-11-02  6:28         ` Jakub Jelinek
2000-11-02  0:06       ` David S. Miller
2000-11-02  0:11       ` Nathan Paul Simons
2000-11-02  0:22         ` Tom Rini
2000-11-02  0:26         ` Jeff Garzik
2000-11-02  0:56         ` Alan Cox
2000-11-01 23:37     ` Nathan Paul Simons
2000-11-02  0:17     ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
2000-11-02  0:30       ` Jeff Garzik
2000-11-02  1:01         ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
2000-11-01 22:53   ` Alan Cox
2000-11-02  1:12     ` Jeff Garzik
2000-11-02  2:47       ` J . A . Magallon
2000-11-02  3:26         ` Jeff Garzik
2000-11-02 11:40           ` Alan Cox
2000-11-01 23:04 ` George
2000-11-02  1:08   ` Jan Dvorak
2000-11-01 23:12 ` Alan Cox
     [not found] <fa.g3i0smv.15loso7@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found] ` <fa.cjn9ksv.1a0m82t@ifi.uio.no>
2000-11-04  6:19   ` non-gcc linux? (was Re: Where did kgcc go in 2.4.0-test10?) Russ Allbery
2000-11-04  8:40     ` Michael Meissner
2000-11-04  8:44       ` Russ Allbery
2000-11-06 12:06       ` Horst von Brand

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