From: tytso@mit.edu
To: yakker@alacritech.com
Cc: cr@sap.com, richardj_moore@uk.ibm.com, paulj@itg.ie,
rothwell@holly-springs.nc.us, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Generalised Kernel Hooks Interface (GKHI)
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 12:58:08 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200011111758.eABHw8O05566@trampoline.thunk.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3A0CBD16.5A07D189@alacritech.com> (yakker@alacritech.com)
In-Reply-To: <200011110012.TAA22015@tsx-prime.MIT.EDU> <3A0CBD16.5A07D189@alacritech.com>
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 19:29:26 -0800
From: "Matt D. Robinson" <yakker@alacritech.com>
We're planning to isolate the write functions as much as possible.
In the past, we've been bitten by this whole concept of Linux "raw I/O".
When I was at SGI, we were able to write to a block device directly
through low-level driver functions that weren't inhibited by any
locking, and that was after shutting down all processors and any
other outstanding interrupts. For Linux, I had given up and stuck
with the raw I/O interpretation of kiobufs, which is just flat out
wrong to do for dumping purposes. Secondly, as Linus said to me a
few weeks ago, he doesn't trust the current disk drivers to be able
to reliably dump when a crash occurs. Don't even ask me to go into
all the reasons kiobufs are wrong for crash dumping. Just read
the code -- it'll be obvious enough.
Oh, yeah, I could have told you that from the beginning. kiobufs were
never intended to be crash-dump friendly. :-) My preference would be
that each block device that was going to be doing crash dumping would
use a special busy-looping driver that's guaranteed never to fail.
(Sort of like how the serial console driver is done; it's separate from
the rest of the driver, and does not depend on interrupts working.)
Hence my comment about putting that separate bit of code in a page which
is write-protected and segregated from everything else....
- Ted
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Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2000-11-10 11:41 richardj_moore
2000-11-10 16:24 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2000-11-10 16:37 ` Christoph Rohland
2000-11-10 18:36 ` Matt D. Robinson
2000-11-11 0:12 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2000-11-11 3:29 ` Matt D. Robinson
2000-11-11 4:57 ` Keith Owens
2000-11-11 17:58 ` tytso [this message]
2000-11-13 10:30 ` Daniel Phillips
2000-11-11 21:48 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2000-11-11 22:12 ` Michael Rothwell
2000-11-10 16:54 ` Andi Kleen
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2000-11-15 15:24 richardj_moore
2000-11-15 18:20 ` Matt D. Robinson
2000-11-15 15:22 richardj_moore
2000-11-14 1:34 richardj_moore
2000-11-13 5:52 richardj_moore
2000-11-12 23:27 richardj_moore
2000-11-13 10:38 ` Andi Kleen
2000-11-14 3:17 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-11-10 19:31 richardj_moore
2000-11-10 18:42 richardj_moore
2000-11-10 16:08 richardj_moore
2000-11-10 11:17 richardj_moore
2000-11-10 10:57 richardj_moore
2000-11-10 10:57 richardj_moore
2000-11-10 10:57 richardj_moore
2000-11-10 13:45 ` Alexander Viro
2000-11-10 13:51 ` Michael Rothwell
2000-11-10 14:00 ` Alexander Viro
2000-11-10 14:37 ` David Lang
2000-11-09 14:02 Jesse Pollard
2000-11-09 7:43 richardj_moore
2000-11-09 11:24 ` Christoph Rohland
2000-11-09 12:25 ` Michael Rothwell
2000-11-09 12:30 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2000-11-09 12:46 ` Michael Rothwell
2000-11-09 13:35 ` Alan Cox
2000-11-09 13:43 ` Michael Rothwell
2000-11-09 14:23 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2000-11-09 12:50 ` Paul Jakma
2000-11-09 12:53 ` Michael Rothwell
2000-11-09 13:39 ` Paul Jakma
2000-11-09 14:06 ` Marco Colombo
2000-11-09 14:14 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2000-11-09 14:26 ` Alan Cox
2000-11-09 14:37 ` Jeff Garzik
2000-11-09 20:24 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2000-11-09 13:31 ` Alan Cox
2000-11-08 20:31 richardj_moore
2000-11-08 21:35 ` Michael Rothwell
2000-11-09 7:44 ` Christoph Rohland
2000-11-09 7:53 ` Larry McVoy
2000-11-09 8:08 ` Andre Hedrick
2000-11-09 8:43 ` Christoph Rohland
2000-11-09 12:20 ` Michael Rothwell
2000-11-09 12:31 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2000-11-09 12:40 ` Alexander Viro
2000-11-09 13:02 ` Michael Rothwell
2000-11-09 13:30 ` Alexander Viro
2000-11-09 13:39 ` Michael Rothwell
2000-11-09 17:19 ` Mike Coleman
2000-11-09 17:27 ` Alexander Viro
2000-11-10 11:42 ` Martin Dalecki
2000-11-09 13:40 ` Marco Colombo
2000-11-10 8:44 ` Christoph Rohland
2000-11-09 12:50 ` Tigran Aivazian
2000-11-09 16:03 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-11-10 8:42 ` Christoph Rohland
2000-11-09 14:28 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2000-11-10 15:07 ` Matti Aarnio
2000-11-10 15:24 ` Michael Rothwell
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