From: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>,
Tigran Aivazian <tigran@aivazian.fsnet.co.uk>,
Tigran Aivazian <tigran@veritas.com>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@transmeta.com>,
Max Inux <maxinux@bigfoot.com>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: bzImage ~ 900K with i386 test11-pre2
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 20:33:53 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20001112203353.A13289@gruyere.muc.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0011111644110.1036-100000@saturn.homenet> <m1ofzmcne5.fsf@frodo.biederman.org> <20001112122910.A2366@athlon.random> <m1k8a9badf.fsf@frodo.biederman.org> <20001112163705.A4933@athlon.random> <m1bsvlauic.fsf@frodo.biederman.org>
In-Reply-To: <m1bsvlauic.fsf@frodo.biederman.org>; from ebiederm@xmission.com on Sun, Nov 12, 2000 at 11:57:15AM -0700
[This is quite a bizarre discussion, but I'll answer anyways. I am not exactly
sure what your point is]
On Sun, Nov 12, 2000 at 11:57:15AM -0700, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
>
> > > I can tell you don't have real hardware. The non obviousness
>
> I need to retract this a bit. You are still building a compressed image,
> and the code in the boot/compressed/head.S remains unchanged and loads
> segment registers, so it works by luck. If you didn't build a
> compressed image you would be in trouble.
boot/compressed/head.S does run in 32bit legacy mode, where you of course
need segment registers. After you got into long mode segments are only
needed to jump between 32/64bit code segments and and for a the data segment
of the 32bit emulation (+ the iretd bug currently which I hope will be fixed
in final hardware)
Also note that boot/compressed/* currently does not even link, because the
x86-64 toolchain cannot generate relocated 32bit code ATM (the linker chokes
on the 32bit relocations) The tests we did so far used a precompiled
relocated binary compressed/{head,misc}.o from a IA32 build.
> > In 64-bit mode, the contents of the ES, DS, and SS segment registers
> > are ignored. All fields (base, limit, and attribute) in the
> > corresponding segment descriptor registers (hidden part) are also
> > ignored.
>
> Hmm. I'll have to look and see if FS & GS are also ignored.
They are not, you to fully use them you need privileged MSRs.
Their limit is ignored.
> > Sure, go ahead if you weren't missing that basic part of the long mode specs.
> > Thanks.
>
> Nope. Though I suspect we should do the switch to 64bit mode in
> setup.S and not have these issues pollute head.S at all.
I see no advantage in doing it there instead of in head.S
-Andi
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2000-11-12 19:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2000-11-10 23:37 Robert Lynch
2000-11-10 23:47 ` H. Peter Anvin
2000-11-11 2:25 ` Max Inux
2000-11-11 3:03 ` H. Peter Anvin
2000-11-11 5:28 ` Chmouel Boudjnah
2000-11-11 11:27 ` Max Inux
2000-11-11 11:28 ` Jan Niehusmann
2000-11-11 11:38 ` bzImage ~ 900K with i386 test11-pre2, I stand corrected Max Inux
2000-11-11 13:49 ` bzImage ~ 900K with i386 test11-pre2 James A. Sutherland
2000-11-11 20:08 ` H. Peter Anvin
2000-11-11 11:36 ` Tigran Aivazian
2000-11-11 11:38 ` Tigran Aivazian
2000-11-11 11:52 ` Max Inux
2000-11-11 14:42 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-11-11 14:51 ` Tigran Aivazian
2000-11-11 16:26 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-11-11 16:46 ` Tigran Aivazian
2000-11-11 18:47 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-11-11 19:35 ` Eric W. Biederman
2000-11-12 11:29 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-11-12 13:14 ` Eric W. Biederman
2000-11-12 15:37 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-11-12 15:44 ` Andi Kleen
2000-11-12 16:33 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-11-12 18:57 ` Eric W. Biederman
2000-11-12 19:33 ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2000-11-16 17:43 ` Eric W. Biederman
2000-11-12 22:30 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-11-12 19:20 ` Eric W. Biederman
2000-11-12 23:03 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-11-11 20:09 ` H. Peter Anvin
2000-11-12 16:22 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-11-11 16:05 ` Andrzej Krzysztofowicz
2000-11-11 17:27 ` Jeff Garzik
2000-11-14 14:02 ` Werner Almesberger
2000-11-11 5:47 ` Peter Samuelson
2000-11-11 14:30 ` Andi Kleen
2000-11-11 15:43 ` Thomas Köhler
2000-11-11 18:03 ` Robert Lynch
2000-11-11 18:30 ` Andi Kleen
2000-11-11 18:57 ` Robert Lynch
2000-11-11 20:35 ` Andi Kleen
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