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From: Michael Meissner <meissner@spectacle-pond.org>
To: Tim Waugh <twaugh@redhat.com>
Cc: James A Sutherland <jas88@cam.ac.uk>,
	Andries Brouwer <aeb@veritas.com>,
	Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] removal of "static foo = 0"
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 23:00:10 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20001126230010.A16176@munchkin.spectacle-pond.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20001125211939.A6883@veritas.com> <200011252211.eAPMBIo21200@gondor.apana.org.au> <20001125234624.A7049@veritas.com> <0011252259430A.11866@dax.joh.cam.ac.uk> <20001125235511.A16662@redhat.com>
In-Reply-To: <20001125235511.A16662@redhat.com>; from twaugh@redhat.com on Sat, Nov 25, 2000 at 11:55:11PM +0000

On Sat, Nov 25, 2000 at 11:55:11PM +0000, Tim Waugh wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 25, 2000 at 10:53:00PM +0000, James A Sutherland wrote:
> 
> > Which is silly. The variable is explicitly defined to be zero
> > anyway, whether you put this in your code or not.
> 
> Why doesn't the compiler just leave out explicit zeros from the
> 'initial data' segment then?  Seems like it ought to be tought to..

Because sometimes it matters.  For example, in kernel mode (and certainly for
embedded programs that I'm more familiar with), the kernel does go through and
zero out the so called BSS segment, so that normally uninitialized static
variables will follow the rules as laid out under the C standards (both C89 and
C99).  I can imagine however, that the code that is executed before the BSS
area is zeroed out needs to be extra careful in terms of statics that it
references, and those must be hand initialized.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2000-11-27  4:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2000-11-25 20:19 Andries Brouwer
2000-11-25 21:07 ` Russell King
2000-11-25 21:29   ` Andries Brouwer
2000-11-26  1:19     ` Russell King
2000-11-25 22:11 ` Herbert Xu
2000-11-25 22:46   ` Andries Brouwer
2000-11-25 22:53     ` James A Sutherland
2000-11-25 23:55       ` Tim Waugh
2000-11-26  3:10         ` James A Sutherland
2000-11-26 10:37         ` Tigran Aivazian
2000-11-26 14:52           ` Philipp Rumpf
2000-11-28  0:01           ` Peter Samuelson
2000-11-27  4:00         ` Michael Meissner [this message]
2000-11-25 23:02     ` Jeff Garzik
2000-11-26  2:08       ` Andries Brouwer
2000-11-26  9:22         ` Martin Mares
2000-11-25 23:33     ` Herbert Xu
2000-11-27 10:03     ` Helge Hafting
2000-11-27 20:33     ` Albert D. Cahalan
2000-11-27 22:57       ` Russell King
2000-11-29  1:46         ` Albert D. Cahalan
2000-11-29  3:21           ` Peter Samuelson
2000-11-29  7:25           ` Russell King
2000-11-25 22:27 ` Tigran Aivazian
2000-11-26  1:32   ` Andries Brouwer
2000-11-26  6:21     ` Werner Almesberger
2000-11-26  2:11   ` Georg Nikodym
2000-11-26  4:25     ` Alan Cox
2000-11-26  5:01       ` John Alvord
2000-11-26  5:10         ` Andre Hedrick
2000-11-26  6:22           ` Keith Owens
2000-11-26  6:28             ` Andre Hedrick
2000-11-26 10:43         ` Tigran Aivazian
2000-11-26 10:52         ` Tigran Aivazian
2000-11-24  7:47           ` Pavel Machek
2000-11-26 14:32           ` bert hubert
2000-11-26 10:52         ` Rogier Wolff
2000-11-26 14:13       ` Philipp Rumpf
2000-11-26 20:47       ` H. Peter Anvin
2000-11-27 21:12         ` Kai Henningsen
2000-11-26 15:19     ` Georg Nikodym
2000-11-26 15:15 Adam J. Richter
2000-11-26 17:53 Elmer Joandi
2000-11-26 18:36 ` Alexander Viro
2000-11-26 19:11   ` Elmer Joandi
2000-11-26 22:49 ` Rogier Wolff
2000-11-27  8:41 Werner Almesberger
2000-11-27  5:56 ` Adam J. Richter
2000-11-27  8:39   ` David S. Miller
2000-11-27  9:08     ` Werner Almesberger
2000-11-27 17:21     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-11-27 17:36       ` Michael Meissner
2000-11-27 19:06         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-11-27 19:34           ` Richard B. Johnson
2000-11-28  0:28             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-11-28 11:25               ` Horst von Brand
2000-11-27 21:27         ` Marcus Sundberg
2000-11-28  3:10         ` kumon
2000-11-28  3:28           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-11-28  3:35             ` Alexander Viro
2000-11-28  4:15               ` Michael Meissner
2000-11-28  9:55               ` Andreas Schwab
2000-11-28 15:16                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-11-28 16:09                   ` Andreas Schwab
2000-11-28 19:29                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-11-28 16:44                   ` Michael Meissner
2000-11-27 18:11       ` Richard B. Johnson
2000-11-27 18:01 ` Michael Meissner

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