From: "Jeff V. Merkey" <jmerkey@vger.timpanogas.org>
To: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
Cc: Pauline Middelink <middelin@polyware.nl>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, jmerkey@timpanogas.org
Subject: Re: bigphysarea support in 2.2.19 and 2.4.0 kernels
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 13:25:41 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20001222132541.A1555@vger.timpanogas.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20001221144247.A10273@vger.timpanogas.org> <E149DKS-0003cX-00@the-village.bc.nu> <20001221154446.A10579@vger.timpanogas.org> <20001221155339.A10676@vger.timpanogas.org> <20001222093928.A30636@polyware.nl> <20001222111105.B14232@vger.timpanogas.org> <20001222113530.A14479@vger.timpanogas.org> <20001222202137.A27844@gruyere.muc.suse.de>
In-Reply-To: <20001222202137.A27844@gruyere.muc.suse.de>; from ak@suse.de on Fri, Dec 22, 2000 at 08:21:37PM +0100
On Fri, Dec 22, 2000 at 08:21:37PM +0100, Andi Kleen wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 22, 2000 at 11:35:30AM -0700, Jeff V. Merkey wrote:
> > The real question is how to guarantee that these pages will be contiguous
> > in memory. The slab allocator may also work, but I think there are size
> > constraints on how much I can get in one pass.
>
> You cannot guarantee it after the system has left bootup stage. That's the
> whole reason why bigphysarea exists.
>
> -Andi
I am wondering why the drivers need such a big contiguous chunk of memory.
For message passing operatings, they should not. Some of
the user space libraries appear to need this support. I am going through
this code today attempting to determine if there's a way to reduce this
requirement or map the memory differently. I am not using these cards
for a ccNUMA implementation, although they have versions of these
adapters that can provide this capability, but for message passing with
small windows of coherence between machines with push/pull DMA-style
behavior for high speed data transfers. 99.9% of the clustering
stuff on Linux uses this model, so this requirement perhaps can be
restructured to be a better fit for Linux.
Just having the patch in the kernel for bigphysarea support would solve
this issue if it could be structured into a form Alan finds acceptable.
Absent this, we need a workaround that's more tailored for the
requirments for Linux apps.
Jeff
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2000-12-22 20:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2000-12-21 21:42 Jeff V. Merkey
2000-12-21 21:32 ` Alan Cox
2000-12-21 22:44 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-12-21 22:53 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-12-22 8:39 ` Pauline Middelink
2000-12-22 8:58 ` Alan Cox
2000-12-22 23:11 ` Albert D. Cahalan
2000-12-23 8:40 ` Eric W. Biederman
2000-12-24 8:59 ` Albert D. Cahalan
2000-12-23 20:11 ` Jes Sorensen
2000-12-24 8:15 ` Albert D. Cahalan
2000-12-22 18:11 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-12-22 18:35 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-12-22 19:21 ` Andi Kleen
2000-12-22 20:25 ` Jeff V. Merkey [this message]
2000-12-22 19:51 ` Pauline Middelink
2000-12-22 21:54 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-12-22 21:39 ` Erik Mouw
2000-12-22 23:56 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-12-22 19:37 ` NUMA and SCI [was Re: bigphysarea support in 2.2.19 and 2.4.0 kernels] Tim Wright
2000-12-22 20:39 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-12-22 20:30 ` Alan Cox
2000-12-22 21:40 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-12-22 21:52 ` Jeff V. Merkey
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