From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 13:11:30 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 13:11:20 -0500 Received: from a203-167-249-89.reverse.clear.net.nz ([203.167.249.89]:48909 "HELO metastasis.f00f.org") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id ; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 13:11:01 -0500 Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 07:10:53 +1300 From: Chris Wedgwood To: Alan Cox Cc: David Lang , Daniel Phillips , Helge Hafting , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Journaling: Surviving or allowing unclean shutdown? Message-ID: <20010105071053.A31025@metastasis.f00f.org> In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk on Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 05:59:17PM +0000 X-No-Archive: Yes Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In the embedded world you will regularly see adherence to that model in the specification. Firstly because the users do it, secondly because power cuts ensure it happens anyway With ACPI you should be able to hook things like the off button and make it do the right thing. This more like what your video and TV do, as opposed to your toaster. The off button need not and _does not_ remove power instantly (if at all) on many appliances. --cw P.S. Yeah, I'm making a few assumptions about your appliances. but I'm sure you know what I mean. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/