From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 04:34:46 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 04:34:36 -0500 Received: from finch-post-10.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.38]:33806 "EHLO finch-post-10.mail.demon.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 04:34:25 -0500 Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 09:34:14 +0000 From: Roger Gammans To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Journaling: Surviving or allowing unclean shutdown? Message-ID: <20010109093414.A7935@knuth.computer-surgery.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20010104224946.C1290@redhat.com> <3A5352ED.A263672D@innominate.de> <20010104192104.C2034@redhat.com> <20010104220821.B775@stefan.sime.com> <20010104224946.C1290@redhat.com> <1628.978695936@redhat.com> <20010106205726.A9664@cerebro.laendle> <20010108120249.J9321@redhat.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: <20010108120249.J9321@redhat.com>; from Stephen C. Tweedie on Mon, Jan 08, 2001 at 12:02:49PM +0000 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Mon, Jan 08, 2001 at 12:02:49PM +0000, Stephen C. Tweedie wrote: > Right. There are two distinct meanings: > > 1) Do not write to this medium, ever (physical readonly); and > > 2) Do not allow modifications to the filesystem (logical readonly). > > The fact is that the kernel confuses the two, but that just isn't >[snip] > We just don't have a way of specifying these two things independently. Is this call for a new mount option?, or should we just clutter /dev even further with devices with ro permissions as the marker. TTFN -- Roger Think of the mess on the carpet. Sensible people do all their demon-summoning in the garage, which you can just hose down afterwards. -- damerell@chiark.greenend.org.uk - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/