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From: "Albert D. Cahalan" <acahalan@cs.uml.edu>
To: torvalds@transmeta.com (Linus Torvalds)
Cc: acahalanrth@twiddle.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] More compile warning fixes for 2.4.0
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 16:24:38 -0500 (EST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200101092124.f09LOcB326931@saturn.cs.uml.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10101091048590.2070-100000@penguin.transmeta.com> from "Linus Torvalds" at Jan 09, 2001 10:51:23 AM

Linus Torvalds writes:
> On Tue, 9 Jan 2001, Albert D. Cahalan wrote:

>> [about labels w/o statements after them]
>>
>>>> Is this really a kernel bug? This is common idiom in C, so gcc
>>>> shouldn't warn about it. If it does, it is a bug in gcc IMHO.
>>>
>>> No, it is not a common idiom in C.  It has _never_ been valid C.
>>>
>>> GCC originally allowed it due to a mistake in the grammar; we
>>> now warn for it.  Fix your source.
>>
>> Since neither -ansi nor -std=foo was specified, gcc should just
>> shut up and be happy. Consider this as another GNU extension.
>
> No, it was a gcc bug that gcc accepted the syntax in the first place.

Sure. I'd always thought it was intentional though.

> Let the gcc people fix the bugs they find without complaining about them.
> After all, gcc would have been perfectly correct in signalling this as a
> syntax error, and aborted compilation. The fact that gcc only warns about
> it is a sign of grace - it's not as if it is a _useful_ extension that
> gives the programmer anything new and should be left in for that reason.

It is slightly useful: appearance, ease-of-use, etc.

Code is partly for humans to read, and is often written by
humans too. The standard syntax has worthless ugly junk.
The extension doesn't break any valid K&R, C90, or C99 code.

Obviously, considering the kernel source, people _like_ this:

void foo(void){
  if(bar()) goto out;
  baz();
out:
}

If it broke valid C99 code, then sure, it would have to go.
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  reply	other threads:[~2001-01-09 21:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-01-07  2:40 Rich Baum
2001-01-07 12:41 ` Paul Gortmaker
2001-01-07 13:17   ` Keith Owens
2001-01-08 19:50 ` Erik Mouw
2001-01-08 20:17   ` Alan Cox
2001-01-09  5:30   ` Richard Henderson
2001-01-09 10:02     ` Albert D. Cahalan
2001-01-09 15:10       ` Richard B. Johnson
2001-01-09 18:51       ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-09 21:24         ` Albert D. Cahalan [this message]
2001-01-09 21:31           ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-10  2:20             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-01-10  7:10               ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-10 13:17                 ` Rich Baum
2001-01-10 13:32                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-01-10 16:03                 ` Marco Colombo
2001-01-10 16:52                   ` Alan Shutko
2001-01-10 17:32                     ` Marco Colombo
2001-01-10 17:19                   ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-10 18:02                     ` Marco Colombo
2001-01-10  1:58         ` Rich Baum
2001-01-09  1:23 ` Rich Baum

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