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From: Jamie Lokier <lk@tantalophile.demon.co.uk>
To: Vojtech Pavlik <vojtech@suse.cz>
Cc: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 02:13:41 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20010115021341.B17465@pcep-jamie.cern.ch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20010112204626.A2740@suse.cz> <E14HDqv-0005Fm-00@the-village.bc.nu> <20010114203823.A17160@pcep-jamie.cern.ch> <20010114233907.C2487@suse.cz>
In-Reply-To: <20010114233907.C2487@suse.cz>; from vojtech@suse.cz on Sun, Jan 14, 2001 at 11:39:07PM +0100

> > Note that "hdparm -X34 -d1" enables old DMA, not UDMA.  (The board was
> > advertised as UDMA capable but it isn't AFAIK).

Fwiw, -X34 does not fix the lockups for everyone else.

Vojtech Pavlik wrote:
> Is the board still available for some testing?

The board is not in the same country as me (Wales vs. France), but I
visit it every few months so there is some chance of me testing it on
that timescale.  AFAIK there are no computer experts in the area to
enable remote access ;-)

> It should be able to do UDMA33.

It does not look hopeful.  Let us look at an old email:

From: Jamie Lokier <jamie@tantalophile.demon.co.uk>
To: Michel Aubry <giovanni@sudfr.com>
Subject: Re: mozilla+XFree86+Linux-2.1.x  => HARD LOCKUP (addition)

On Wed, Dec 09, 1998 at 04:30:34PM +0100, Michel Aubry wrote:
> Is this to say that your bios has no "select UDMA" or so capability???
> Is your motherboard an old one? (that was not udma compliant).

It has "Bus Master DMA" option, but no "UDMA" option.  It's an FIC
PC-2011, manufactured about August 1997.  I always assumed the hardware
did UDMA (that's one reason I bought it).

>       you should edit via82c586.c , uncomment or add a 
> "#define DISPLAY_VIA_TIMINGS"
>       and recompile your kernel...

Will do, at my next recompile.  Would that be with the patch you sent me?

> You ought to know that linux kernel via patch requires your bios to be
> udma compliant. If not, all you can do safely is run it dma only!

Is this strictly true?  You've obviously got all the chipset docs, and I
doubt anything on the motherboard interferes with IDE timings/state
machines.

> > [root@tantalophile linux]# hdparm -I /dev/hda

>       this one is not running udma!

I know, I did hdparm -X34 explicitly to avoid lockups.

> > [root@tantalophile linux]# hdparm -i /dev/hda
> 
>       this one is running udma!

And with these settings unchanged, the system locks up from time to
time.

-- Jamie
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-01-15  1:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-01-12  8:44 ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch Andre Hedrick
2001-01-12  8:55 ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch Andre Hedrick
2001-01-12 17:51   ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch Linus Torvalds
2001-01-12 18:13     ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch Alan Cox
2001-01-12 18:37       ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch Linus Torvalds
2001-01-12 21:26       ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch Adrian Bunk
2001-01-12 18:17     ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch Andre Hedrick
2001-01-12 18:55       ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch Linus Torvalds
2001-01-12 19:46         ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch Vojtech Pavlik
2001-01-12 19:57           ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch Linus Torvalds
2001-01-12 20:24             ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch Vojtech Pavlik
2001-01-12 23:47               ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch Alan Cox
2001-01-13 13:45                 ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch Vojtech Pavlik
2001-01-13 17:09                   ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch Bryan O'Sullivan
2001-01-13 17:19                     ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch Vojtech Pavlik
2001-01-13  0:09               ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch Linus Torvalds
2001-01-13  0:25                 ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch Alan Cox
2001-01-12 16:43                   ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch John Heil
2001-01-13  0:52                     ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch Linus Torvalds
2001-01-12 17:09                       ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch John Heil
2001-01-13  1:16                         ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch Linus Torvalds
2001-01-15 10:15                         ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch Matthias Andree
2001-01-13  1:12                       ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch Andre Hedrick
2001-01-13  1:18                         ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch Linus Torvalds
2001-01-13  1:24                           ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch Andre Hedrick
2001-01-13  1:31                             ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch Linus Torvalds
2001-01-13  1:48                               ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch Andre Hedrick
2001-01-13  1:51                               ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch Andre Hedrick
2001-01-13 14:02                       ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch Vojtech Pavlik
2001-01-13 14:00                 ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch Vojtech Pavlik
2001-01-13 19:46                   ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch Alan Cox
2001-01-13 20:00                     ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch Andre Hedrick
2001-01-14  3:41                   ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch TimO
2001-01-14  8:55                     ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch Vojtech Pavlik
2001-01-15 13:06                   ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch Stephen Clark
     [not found]               ` <Pine.LNX.4.30.0101130559060.19743-100000@wr5z.localdomain>
2001-01-13 14:22                 ` VIA IDE corruption - anyone experiencing it with 2.4.0? Vojtech Pavlik
2001-01-12 23:43           ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch Alan Cox
2001-01-13  2:43             ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch davej
2001-01-13 13:42               ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch Vojtech Pavlik
2001-01-13 13:35             ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch Vojtech Pavlik
2001-01-14 19:38             ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch Jamie Lokier
2001-01-14 22:39               ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch Vojtech Pavlik
2001-01-15  0:06                 ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch Albert Cranford
2001-01-15 23:47                   ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2001-01-15  1:13                 ` Jamie Lokier [this message]
2001-01-13  3:03           ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch Tkil
2001-01-13 13:44             ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch Vojtech Pavlik
2001-01-13 22:06           ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch junio
2001-01-13  7:12         ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch Andre Hedrick
2001-01-13 16:42         ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch David Woodhouse
2001-01-13 17:04           ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch Linus Torvalds
2001-01-14 17:22             ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch David Woodhouse
2001-01-13 18:54           ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch Russell King
2001-01-12  8:56 ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch Craig Schlenter
2001-01-13 23:40 ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch Andrzej Krzysztofowicz
2001-01-14  8:46 ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch Vojtech Pavlik
2001-01-14  3:53 ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch Tony Parsons
2001-01-14  8:31 ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch David D.W. Downey
2001-01-14  9:03   ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch David D.W. Downey
2001-01-15 10:29   ` ide.2.4.1-p3.01112001.patch Paul Flinders

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