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From: Jesse Pollard <pollard@tomcat.admin.navo.hpc.mil>
To: andrea@suse.de, Richard Henderson <rth@twiddle.net>
Cc: Russell King <rmk@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	Hubert Mantel <mantel@suse.de>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Subject: Re: Compatibility issue with 2.2.19pre7
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 07:46:20 -0600 (CST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200101241346.HAA51300@tomcat.admin.navo.hpc.mil> (raw)

Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>:
> On Tue, Jan 23, 2001 at 11:51:15PM -0800, Richard Henderson wrote:
> > On Thu, Jan 11, 2001 at 12:59:24AM +0100, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> > > What I said is that I can write this C code:
> > > 
> > > 	int x[2], * p = (int *) (((char *) &x)+1);
> > > 	main()
> > > 	{
> > > 		*p = 0;
> > > 	}
> > > 
> > > This is legal C code.
> > 
> > Err, no.  This is not "legal" by any stretch of the imagination.
> > This code has undefined behaviour.
> 
> I know this code has undefined behaviour at _runtime_. But I thought
> you were obliged to allow it to compile. That was my only point.
> 
> > We aren't even obliged to allow this to compile.
> 
> I'd love if you could forbid it to compile.

It would have to be implementation dependant/architecture dependant-
The only way to know is to realize that *p initializer value is invalid
is to know:

1. integer addresses MUST be aligned (say 4 or 8 byte boundaries)
2. the computation of (int *) (((char *) &x)+1) is a constant at
   compile time, and not link time (some linkers can do address offset
   calculations if "x" happens to be an external - ie. x +/- offset and
   offset is a constant)

Other systems would have to allow it to compile (and link). It still has
undefined behaviour, and is non-portable.

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Jesse I Pollard, II
Email: pollard@navo.hpc.mil

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             reply	other threads:[~2001-01-24 13:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-01-24 13:46 Jesse Pollard [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-01-10  0:37 Hubert Mantel
2001-01-10  0:43 ` Alan Cox
2001-01-10  6:54 ` Russell King
2001-01-10 15:31   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-01-10 22:09     ` Russell King
2001-01-10 23:59       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-01-11  7:34         ` Russell King
2001-01-11 10:33           ` Andi Kleen
2001-01-11 10:36             ` Russell King
2001-01-11 12:10           ` Manfred
2001-01-11 12:10             ` Andi Kleen
2001-01-11 12:29               ` Manfred
2001-01-11 13:27                 ` Russell King
2001-01-24  7:51         ` Richard Henderson
2001-01-24  9:02           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-01-24  9:51             ` Richard Henderson
2001-01-24 12:21               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-01-24 17:49                 ` Richard Henderson
2001-01-24 10:09             ` Thomas Pornin
2001-01-11 15:28     ` Trond Myklebust
2001-01-11 16:19       ` Manfred Spraul
2001-01-11 17:44       ` Trond Myklebust
2001-01-11 18:22         ` Trond Myklebust
2001-01-11 18:27           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-01-11 18:30           ` Trond Myklebust
2001-01-11 18:43             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-01-11 20:09               ` Russell King
2001-01-11 20:39             ` Trond Myklebust
2001-01-11 11:37   ` Trond Myklebust

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