From: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
To: "David S. Miller" <davem@redhat.com>
Cc: James Sutherland <jas88@cam.ac.uk>,
Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels@traveler.cistron-office.nl>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: ECN: Clearing the air (fwd)
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 13:30:16 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20010129133016.A28458@gruyere.muc.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <951am4$gbf$1@ncc1701.cistron.net> <Pine.SOL.4.21.0101281642180.16734-100000@green.csi.cam.ac.uk> <14965.7321.926528.391631@pizda.ninka.net>
In-Reply-To: <14965.7321.926528.391631@pizda.ninka.net>; from davem@redhat.com on Sun, Jan 28, 2001 at 11:32:41PM -0800
On Sun, Jan 28, 2001 at 11:32:41PM -0800, David S. Miller wrote:
>
> James Sutherland writes:
> > Except you can detect and deal with these "PMTU black holes". Just as you
> > should detect and deal with ECN black holes. Maybe an ideal Internet
> > wouldn't have them, but this one does. If you can find an ideal Internet,
> > go code for it: until then, stick with the real one. It's all we've got.
>
> Guess what, Linux works not around PMTU black holes either for the
> same exact reason we will not work around ECN.
Actually PMTU black hole detection is very hard. I tried to implement it, but
failed to make it not do bad things occasionally.
-Andi
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2001-01-29 15:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2001-01-28 0:14 jamal
2001-01-28 8:56 ` James Sutherland
2001-01-28 12:18 ` jamal
2001-01-28 13:29 ` James Sutherland
2001-01-28 14:34 ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
2001-01-28 16:44 ` James Sutherland
2001-01-29 7:32 ` David S. Miller
2001-01-29 12:30 ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2001-01-29 18:31 ` Albert D. Cahalan
2001-01-29 19:02 ` James H. Cloos Jr.
2001-01-29 19:27 ` George
2001-01-29 19:59 ` Alex Pennace
2001-01-28 14:54 ` Andi Kleen
2001-01-28 16:15 ` jamal
2001-01-28 17:11 ` James Sutherland
2001-01-28 18:07 ` jamal
2001-01-28 20:13 ` Gregory Maxwell
2001-01-29 2:58 ` David Lang
2001-01-29 7:20 ` David S. Miller
2001-01-28 19:42 ` Gregory Maxwell
2001-01-29 0:14 ` Jamie Lokier
2001-01-31 18:02 ` Alan Cox
2001-02-03 16:51 ` Michael H. Warfield
2001-01-29 12:57 ` Peter Samuelson
2001-01-28 17:39 ` Rogier Wolff
2001-01-28 18:01 ` Graham Murray
2001-01-28 18:08 ` jamal
2001-01-28 18:23 ` Rogier Wolff
2001-01-28 18:38 ` jamal
2001-01-28 20:18 ` Gregory Maxwell
2001-01-28 21:33 ` ECN fixes for Cisco gear Dax Kelson
2001-01-28 22:09 ` ECN connectivity surveys Dax Kelson
2001-01-28 21:45 ` ECN fixes for Cisco gear Lincoln Dale
2001-01-28 14:04 ` ECN: Clearing the air (fwd) Ben Ford
2001-01-28 14:09 ` James Sutherland
2001-01-28 15:38 ` Ben Ford
2001-01-28 19:55 ` Gregory Maxwell
2001-01-28 19:45 ` Gregory Maxwell
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