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From: David Weinehall <tao@acc.umu.se>
To: Ivan Passos <lists@cyclades.com>
Cc: Linux Kernel List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: LILO and serial speeds over 9600
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 00:39:20 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20010213003920.A21164@khan.acc.umu.se> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.31.0102121147390.25638-100000@lairdtest1.internap.com> <Pine.LNX.4.10.10102121456380.3761-100000@main.cyclades.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10102121456380.3761-100000@main.cyclades.com>; from lists@cyclades.com on Mon, Feb 12, 2001 at 03:17:04PM -0800

On Mon, Feb 12, 2001 at 03:17:04PM -0800, Ivan Passos wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 12 Feb 2001, Scott Laird wrote:
> > 
> > On 12 Feb 2001, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> > >
> > > Just checked my own code, and SYSLINUX does indeed support 115200 (I
> > > changed this to be a 32-bit register ages ago, apparently.)  Still
> > > doesn't answer the question "why"... all I think you do is increase
> > > the risk for FIFO overrun and lost characters (flow control on a boot
> > > loader console is vestigial at the best.)
> > 
> > It's simple -- we want the kernel to have its serial console running at
> > 115200, and we don't want to have to change speeds to talk to the
> > bootloader. 
> 
> Exactly.
> 
> Then HPA may ask: but why do you want to run the serial console at
> 115200?? The answer is simple: because we can (or more precisely, because
> the HW can ;).
> 
> If the hardware is supposed to support 115.2Kbps, why can't / shouldn't 
> we use it?? Remember, this is not a modem connection, there is no
> compression involved, both sides are running 115.2Kbps, so there should
> NOT be a risk for FIFO overruns (unless you have buggy hardware). And in
> this case, you can then decrease your baud rate. But at least you have the
> _option_! :)
> 
> 
> > Some boot processes, particularaly fsck, can be *REALLY*
> > verbose on screwed up systems.  I've seen systems take hours to run fsck,
> > even on small filesystems, simply because they were blocking on a 9600 bps
> > console.
> 
> This is true!!
> 
> Another one (not as critical as the fsck though): when compiling the
> kernel, sometimes the kernel compilation is done, but the console output
> isn't finished yet (I'm serious).

Dunno about others, but I always pipe stdout to /dev/null when compiling
kernels. This way, everything important is still shown (warnings/errors)
as those go to stderr anyway, and all non-interesting stuff goes down
the drain.


/David Weinehall
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-02-12 23:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-02-12 15:45 Ivan Passos
2001-02-12 16:53 ` Ivan Passos
2001-02-12 18:47   ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-02-12 20:39     ` James Sutherland
2001-02-12 20:54       ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-02-12 22:55         ` James Sutherland
2001-02-14 11:45           ` Pavel Machek
2001-02-12 21:52       ` Alan Cox
2001-02-12 22:10         ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-02-12 22:25           ` Alan Cox
2001-02-12 23:11             ` Werner Almesberger
2001-02-12 23:16               ` Alan Cox
2001-02-12 23:20                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-02-12 23:27                   ` Alan Cox
2001-02-12 23:53                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-02-13  0:11                       ` Alan Cox
2001-02-13  0:17                         ` Tim Wright
2001-02-13  0:23                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-02-13 10:51                             ` Alan Cox
2001-02-13 10:57                               ` James Sutherland
2001-02-13 12:55                                 ` Russell King
2001-02-13 13:56                                   ` James Sutherland
2001-02-13  0:25                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-02-12 23:35                   ` James Sutherland
2001-02-12 23:51                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-02-13  0:24                       ` James Sutherland
2001-02-13  0:27                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-02-12 23:19             ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-02-12 23:23               ` Alan Cox
2001-02-14 11:53               ` Pavel Machek
2001-02-17 17:26                 ` Patrick Michael Kane
2001-02-17 17:40                   ` James Sutherland
2001-02-21  3:11                     ` Network console project (was: LILO and serial speeds over 9600) H. Peter Anvin
2001-02-21  9:29                       ` Network console project Jan-Benedict Glaw
2001-02-22 21:52                       ` Network console project (was: LILO and serial speeds over 9600) Pavel Machek
2001-02-23 15:54                         ` Andreas Dilger
2001-02-12 22:46         ` LILO and serial speeds over 9600 James Sutherland
2001-02-12 22:50           ` Alan Cox
2001-02-12 18:51   ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-02-12 19:49     ` Scott Laird
2001-02-12 23:17       ` Ivan Passos
2001-02-12 23:30         ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-02-12 23:39         ` David Weinehall [this message]
2001-02-13  2:52         ` Michael Rothwell
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.21.0102131506230.30955-100000@lefty.dyndns.org>
2001-02-13  6:12 ` H. Peter Anvin

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