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From: egger@suse.de
To: chromi@cyberspace.org
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Only 10 MB/sec with via 82c686b chipset?
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 18:34:40 +0100 (CET)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20010321182613.85AF354D6@Nicole.muc.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <l03130301b6de66229e10@[192.168.239.101]>

On 21 Mar, Jonathan Morton wrote:

> The "blue and white" PowerMac G3 and certain early PowerMac G4s used a
> 66MHz PCI card for graphics in lieu of proper AGP.  66MHz PCI is used
> in certain high-end workstations, as well, but it's not normally found
> on consumer-level devices.
 
> Look at 'lspci -vvv' output for the "66MHz" flag on the devices listed
> there - all the ones in my Duron system leave it unset, except for my
> (very recent and pretty nippy) SCSI controller and (AGP) video card.

 Well, I wasn't talking about 66Mhz nor about 64bit cards but rather 
 normal consumer cards which are specified for 33Mhz.

> That said, *most* PCI devices don't like being overclocked, and it's
> not well known that pushing the system bus also pushes the PCI and ISA
> buses in the same manner.  A friend of mine had *severe* locking
> problems with his system when he inserted his cheap SCSI adapter into
> his overclocked machine, even though the other cards handled it OK
> (relatively speaking - I'm not convinced).  I don't know how far he'd
> overclocked it, but 37MHz kinda rings true.

 Trying to enhance a systems performance by overclocking the bus is
 about the most stupid thing one can do as one ANY of the connected
 devices memory/CPU/chipset/PCI devices/AGP cards (just to name a
 few) have a high probability of failing and all those probabilites
 factor up which basically means that the system is in a unpredictable
 state which is never acceptable for any serious kind of system. 

 Better leave the overclocking of busses to kids who are bored
 by their live.

-- 

Servus,
       Daniel


      reply	other threads:[~2001-03-21 17:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-03-21  3:48 SodaPop
2001-03-21 13:48 ` egger
2001-03-22  2:14   ` TimO
2001-03-23  2:38   ` Only 10 MB/sec with via 82c686b - FIXED SodaPop
2001-03-23  9:48     ` Alan Cox
2001-03-23 16:21       ` SodaPop
2001-03-23 17:00       ` [PATCH] Prevent OOM from killing init SodaPop
2001-03-23 18:42         ` Martin Dalecki
2001-03-23 20:25           ` SodaPop
2001-03-23 20:33             ` Martin Dalecki
2001-03-23 19:19         ` Jonathan Morton
2001-03-23  2:59   ` Only 10 MB/sec with via 82c686b - FIXED SodaPop
2001-03-21 14:18 ` Only 10 MB/sec with via 82c686b chipset? Jonathan Morton
2001-03-21 17:34   ` egger [this message]

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