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From: Andreas Dilger <adilger@turbolinux.com>
To: Matthew Wilcox <matthew@wil.cx>
Cc: LA Walsh <law@sgi.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: 64-bit block sizes on 32-bit systems
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 10:47:13 -0700 (MST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200103261747.f2QHlEX19564@webber.adilger.int> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20010326181803.F31126@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk> from Matthew Wilcox at "Mar 26, 2001 06:18:03 pm"

Matthew Wilcox writes:
> On Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 08:39:21AM -0800, LA Walsh wrote:
> > I vaguely remember a discussion about this a few months back.
> > If I remember, the reasoning was it would unnecessarily slow
> > down smaller systems that would never have block devices in
> > the 4-28T range attached.  
> 
> 4k page size * 2GB = 8TB.
> 
> i consider it much more likely on such systems that the page size will
> be increased to maybe 16 or 64k which would give us 32TB or 128TB.
> 
> personally, i'm going to see what the situation looks like in 5 years time
> and try to solve the problem then.

What do you mean by problems 5 years down the road?  The real issue is that
this 32-bit block count limit affects composite devices like MD RAID and
LVM today, not just individual disks.  There have been several postings
I have seen with people having a problem _today_ with a 2TB limit on
devices.

There is some hope with LVM (and MD I suspect as well), that it could
do blocksize remapping, so it appears to be a 4k sector device, but
remaps to 512-byte sector disks underneath.  This _should_ give us an
upper limit of 16TB, assuming 32-bit unsigned ints for block numbers.
Of course, you would need to only do 4kB block I/O on top of these devices
(not much of an issue for such large devices).

Still, this is just a stop-gap measure because next year people will want
> 16TB devices, and there won't be an easy way to do this.

Cheers, Andreas
-- 
Andreas Dilger  \ "If a man ate a pound of pasta and a pound of antipasto,
                 \  would they cancel out, leaving him still hungry?"
http://www-mddsp.enel.ucalgary.ca/People/adilger/               -- Dogbert

  reply	other threads:[~2001-03-26 17:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-03-26 16:39 LA Walsh
2001-03-26 17:18 ` Matthew Wilcox
2001-03-26 17:47   ` Andreas Dilger [this message]
2001-03-26 18:09     ` Matthew Wilcox
2001-03-26 18:37       ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-03-26 19:36         ` Martin Dalecki
2001-03-26 23:03         ` AJ Lewis
2001-03-26 19:05       ` Scott Laird
2001-03-26 19:09       ` Andreas Dilger
2001-03-26 20:31         ` Dan Hollis
2001-03-26 19:20       ` Rik van Riel
2001-03-26 20:14       ` Jes Sorensen
2001-03-26 17:58 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-03-28  8:06 ` Matthew Wilcox
2001-03-26 17:35 LA Walsh
2001-03-26 18:01 Manfred Spraul
2001-03-26 18:07 ` Matthew Wilcox
2001-03-26 19:40 ` LA Walsh
2001-03-26 21:53   ` Manfred Spraul
2001-03-26 22:07     ` LA Walsh
2001-03-26 19:26 Jesse Pollard
2001-03-26 21:27 Jesse Pollard
2001-03-26 22:07 ` Jonathan Morton
2001-03-27  4:14   ` Jesse Pollard
2001-03-27 17:22 LA Walsh
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.30.0103270022500.21075-100000@age.cs.columbia.edu>
     [not found] ` <3AC0CA9C.3D804361@sgi.com>
2001-03-27 19:00   ` Jan Harkes
2001-03-27 19:30 Jesse Pollard
2001-03-27 19:57 Jesse Pollard
2001-03-27 20:20 ` Jan Harkes
2001-03-27 21:55   ` LA Walsh
2001-03-27 22:23 Jesse Pollard
2001-03-27 23:56 ` Steve Lord
2001-03-28  8:09   ` Brad Boyer
2001-03-28 14:53     ` Dave Kleikamp

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