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From: Ivan Kokshaysky <ink@jurassic.park.msu.ru>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: "Maciej W. Rozycki" <macro@ds2.pg.gda.pl>,
	Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
	James Simmons <jsimmons@linux-fbdev.org>,
	Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Linux Fbdev development list 
	<linux-fbdev-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [Linux-fbdev-devel] Re: fbcon slowness [was NTP on 2.4.2?]
Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 14:09:20 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20010406140920.A4866@jurassic.park.msu.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.3.96.1010405150444.21134E-100000@delta.ds2.pg.gda.pl> <m17l0zw6mx.fsf@frodo.biederman.org>
In-Reply-To: <m17l0zw6mx.fsf@frodo.biederman.org>; from ebiederm@xmission.com on Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 12:20:22PM -0600

On Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 12:20:22PM -0600, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> The point is on the Alpha all ram is always cached, and i/o space is
> completely uncached.  You cannot do write-combing for video card
> memory.

Incorrect. Alphas have write buffers - 6x32 bytes on ev5 and
4x64 on ev6, IIRC. So alphas do write up to 32 or 64 bytes
in a single pci transaction.

>  Memory barriers are a separate issue.  On the alpha the
> natural way to implement it would be in the page table fill code.
> Memory barriers are o.k. but the really don't help the case when what
> you want to do is read the latest value out of a pci register.  

You don't need memory barrier for that. "Write memory barriers" are
used to ensure correct write order, and "memory barriers" are used
to ensure that all pending reads/writes will complete before next read
or write.

Ivan.

  reply	other threads:[~2001-04-06 10:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-04-05  3:04 James Simmons
2001-04-05 12:03 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-04-05 12:12   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2001-04-05 13:15     ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2001-04-05 18:20       ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-04-06 10:09         ` Ivan Kokshaysky [this message]
2001-04-06 13:19           ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-04-06 17:27             ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2001-04-06 18:34               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-04-06 19:31                 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2001-04-06 17:13           ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2001-04-08 18:11             ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2001-04-09 10:02               ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2001-04-09 11:05                 ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2001-04-06 17:07         ` Maciej W. Rozycki
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-04-03  2:04 James Simmons
2001-04-01 14:54 James Simmons
2001-04-01 21:35 ` Jamie Lokier
2001-03-31  4:15 James Simmons
2001-03-31  4:11 James Simmons
2001-04-02 22:44 ` Alan Cox
2001-04-03  6:23   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2001-04-03 12:21     ` Alan Cox
2001-04-04  7:50       ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-04-04  8:47         ` Jamie Lokier
2001-03-31  3:47 James Simmons
2001-03-31 14:15 ` Jamie Lokier

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