From: Jamie Lokier <lk@tantalophile.demon.co.uk>
To: Mikulas Patocka <mikulas@artax.karlin.mff.cuni.cz>
Cc: David Schleef <ds@schleef.org>,
Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>, Mark Salisbury <mbs@mc.com>,
Jeff Dike <jdike@karaya.com>,
schwidefsky@de.ibm.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: No 100 HZ timer !
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 19:15:28 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20010410191528.B21024@pcep-jamie.cern.ch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20010410053105.B4144@stm.lbl.gov> <Pine.LNX.3.96.1010410155723.28395A-100000@artax.karlin.mff.cuni.cz>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.3.96.1010410155723.28395A-100000@artax.karlin.mff.cuni.cz>; from mikulas@artax.karlin.mff.cuni.cz on Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 04:10:28PM +0200
Mikulas Patocka wrote:
> Timers more precise than 100HZ aren't probably needed - as MIN_RTO is 0.2s
> and MIN_DELACK is 0.04s, TCP would hardly benefit from them.
Indeed, using precise timers for TCP would probably degrade performance
-- you should process a group of timer events together, when resolution
is not that important.
There are plenty of apps that need higher resolution. Software modem
comes to mind (guess why ;), though the device driver supplies the high
resolution timed interrupts in that case.
Games would like to be able to page flip at vertical refresh time --
<1ms accuracy please. Network traffic shaping benefits from better than
1ms timing. Video players want to display their frames preferably
without 10ms jitter.
Even that old classic game "snake" benefits from decent timing. I
worked on an X multiplayer snake implementation which was very
unpleasant and jerky at first. 1. Disable nagle for X connection :-)
Better but still jerky. 2. Write delay loop like this:
calculate next_event_time
select (0, 0, 0, next_event_time - 20ms)
while (gettimeofday() < next_event_time)
/* Busy loop for last 20ms. */
It's no coincidence that I've had to write another very similar event
loop recently. You can see, this sort of thing is a real waste of CPU.
-- Jamie
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2001-04-10 17:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 118+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2001-04-09 15:54 schwidefsky
2001-04-09 18:30 ` Jeff Dike
2001-04-09 18:19 ` Mark Salisbury
2001-04-09 20:12 ` Alan Cox
2001-04-09 20:32 ` Mark Salisbury
2001-04-09 22:31 ` Mikulas Patocka
2001-04-09 22:35 ` Alan Cox
2001-04-10 11:43 ` David Schleef
2001-04-10 12:04 ` Mikulas Patocka
2001-04-10 12:31 ` David Schleef
2001-04-10 12:34 ` Mark Salisbury
2001-04-10 14:10 ` Mikulas Patocka
2001-04-10 13:35 ` root
2001-04-10 14:22 ` Andi Kleen
2001-04-10 15:43 ` Alan Cox
2001-04-12 5:25 ` watermodem
2001-04-12 8:45 ` Jamie Lokier
2001-04-10 17:15 ` Jamie Lokier [this message]
2001-04-10 17:27 ` Alan Cox
2001-04-10 17:35 ` Jamie Lokier
2001-04-10 18:17 ` Alan Cox
2001-04-10 18:24 ` Jamie Lokier
2001-04-10 19:28 ` george anzinger
2001-04-10 20:02 ` mark salisbury
2001-04-10 22:08 ` george anzinger
2001-04-11 0:48 ` Mark Salisbury
2001-04-11 2:35 ` george anzinger
2001-04-12 0:24 ` Mark Salisbury
2001-04-11 16:11 ` Jamie Lokier
2001-04-11 16:59 ` george anzinger
2001-04-11 18:57 ` Jamie Lokier
2001-04-11 19:21 ` John Alvord
2001-04-12 8:41 ` Jamie Lokier
2001-08-01 1:08 ` george anzinger
2001-08-11 11:57 ` Pavel Machek
2001-08-14 15:59 ` Jamie Lokier
2001-08-14 16:57 ` george anzinger
2001-04-10 19:50 ` Zdenek Kabelac
2001-04-11 11:42 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2001-04-11 16:13 ` Jamie Lokier
2001-04-12 9:51 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2001-04-10 19:42 ` Zdenek Kabelac
2001-04-10 12:19 ` Mark Salisbury
2001-04-10 17:51 ` yodaiken
2001-04-11 18:43 ` Oliver Xymoron
2001-04-10 12:11 ` Mark Salisbury
2001-04-10 5:51 ` Andi Kleen
2001-04-10 9:33 ` Martin Mares
2001-04-10 10:00 ` Albert D. Cahalan
2001-04-10 12:14 ` Mark Salisbury
2001-04-11 5:55 ` Karim Yaghmour
2001-04-10 11:18 ` Alan Cox
2001-04-10 12:02 ` Andi Kleen
2001-04-10 12:12 ` Alan Cox
2001-04-10 12:27 ` Mark Salisbury
2001-04-10 12:32 ` Andi Kleen
2001-04-10 12:36 ` Alan Cox
2001-04-10 12:37 ` Andi Kleen
2001-04-10 18:45 ` Stephen D. Williams
2001-04-10 19:59 ` Andi Kleen
2001-04-10 12:07 ` Mark Salisbury
2001-04-10 12:45 ` Andi Kleen
2001-04-10 12:42 ` Mark Salisbury
2001-04-10 12:54 ` Andi Kleen
2001-04-10 7:27 schwidefsky
2001-04-10 7:29 schwidefsky
2001-04-10 11:38 schwidefsky
2001-04-10 11:54 ` Alan Cox
2001-04-10 12:54 schwidefsky
2001-04-10 14:42 schwidefsky
2001-04-11 9:06 schwidefsky
2001-04-11 17:56 No 100 HZ timer! Bret Indrelee
2001-04-12 17:39 ` george anzinger
2001-04-12 21:19 ` Bret Indrelee
2001-04-12 22:20 ` george anzinger
2001-04-13 4:00 ` Bret Indrelee
2001-04-13 6:32 ` Ben Greear
2001-04-13 8:42 ` george anzinger
2001-04-13 10:36 ` Jamie Lokier
2001-04-13 16:07 ` george anzinger
2001-04-13 23:00 ` Jamie Lokier
2001-04-13 12:05 ` Horst von Brand
2001-04-13 21:53 ` george anzinger
2001-04-13 23:10 ` Jamie Lokier
2001-04-16 3:02 ` Ben Greear
2001-04-16 2:46 ` Jamie Lokier
2001-04-16 12:36 ` Mark Salisbury
2001-04-16 19:19 ` george anzinger
2001-04-16 20:45 ` Albert D. Cahalan
2001-04-16 21:29 ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-04-16 22:25 ` george anzinger
2001-04-16 23:57 ` Mark Salisbury
2001-04-17 0:45 ` george anzinger
2001-04-17 12:12 ` Mark Salisbury
2001-04-17 12:51 ` Mark Salisbury
2001-04-17 18:53 ` george anzinger
2001-04-17 19:41 ` Jamie Lokier
2001-04-23 8:05 ` Ulrich Windl
2001-04-23 13:22 ` Mark Salisbury
2001-04-16 2:41 ` Ben Greear
2001-04-12 12:58 No 100 HZ timer ! Mark Salisbury
2001-04-12 13:14 No 100 HZ timer! Bret Indrelee
2001-08-01 17:22 No 100 HZ timer ! george anzinger
2001-08-01 19:34 ` Chris Friesen
2001-08-01 19:49 ` Richard B. Johnson
2001-08-01 20:08 ` Mark Salisbury
2001-08-01 20:33 ` george anzinger
2001-08-01 21:20 ` george anzinger
2001-08-02 4:28 ` Rik van Riel
2001-08-02 6:03 ` george anzinger
2001-08-02 14:39 ` Oliver Xymoron
2001-08-02 16:36 ` george anzinger
2001-08-02 17:05 ` Oliver Xymoron
2001-08-02 17:46 ` george anzinger
2001-08-02 18:41 ` Oliver Xymoron
2001-08-02 21:18 ` george anzinger
2001-08-02 22:09 ` Oliver Xymoron
2001-08-02 17:26 ` John Alvord
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