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From: "Adam J. Richter" <adam@yggdrasil.com>
To: chief@bandits.org
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, torvalds@transmeta.com
Subject: Re: PATCH(?): linux-2.4.4-pre2: fork should run child first
Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 16:51:34 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200104132351.QAA05523@adam.yggdrasil.com> (raw)

"John Fremlin" <chief@bandits.org> writes:
> "Adam J. Richter" <adam@yggdrasil.com> writes:
>> 	Guess why you're seeing this email.  That's right.  Linux-2.4.3's
>> fork() does not run the child first.

>[...] If an app wants to fork and exec, it
>should use *vfork* and exec, which is a performance win across many
>OSs because the COW mappings don't even have to be set up, IIRC.

	Even in that case, you want to run the child first because
it may block on I/O when it does the exec or the new program starts
running, and you are likely to be able to use that time while the
child is waiting on I/O for the parent to run (typically just to
record the process in its internal data structures and then call
wait()).  Basically, you want to kick off some new I/O before running
something that can run while that I/O is pending.

	Of course, in the vfork case, this change is probably only a
very small win.  The real advantage is with regular fork() followed
by an exec, which happens quite a lot.  For example, I do not see
vfork anywhere in the bash sources.

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             reply	other threads:[~2001-04-13 23:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-04-13 23:51 Adam J. Richter [this message]
2001-04-14  1:54 ` John Fremlin
2001-04-14  2:29   ` Linus Torvalds
2001-04-14  2:51     ` Alexander Viro
2001-04-14  2:52     ` Ulrich Drepper
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-04-14 16:11 Adam J. Richter
2001-04-14  7:58 Adam J. Richter
2001-04-14  8:42 ` Michael O'Reilly
2001-04-14  9:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-04-14 15:06   ` Rik van Riel
2001-04-14  2:45 Adam J. Richter
2001-04-13 16:28 Hubertus Franke
2001-04-12 19:45 Adam J. Richter
2001-04-12 19:15 Adam J. Richter
2001-04-12 13:44 Hubertus Franke
2001-04-12  8:55 Adam J. Richter
2001-04-12 12:38 ` Horst von Brand
2001-04-17  9:15   ` Éric Brunet
2001-04-17 14:26     ` Jesse Pollard
2001-04-17 15:32     ` Éric Brunet
2001-04-13 21:08 ` John Fremlin
2001-04-14  3:53 ` Rik van Riel
2001-04-14  4:40   ` Linus Torvalds
2001-04-14 13:35     ` Rik van Riel

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