From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 17:43:17 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 17:43:08 -0400 Received: from snark.tuxedo.org ([207.106.50.26]:61201 "EHLO snark.thyrsus.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 17:43:00 -0400 Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 17:44:07 -0400 From: "Eric S. Raymond" To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kbuild-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: CML2 1.1.6, aka "I think I should have stayed in bed this morning." Message-ID: <20010417174407.A6667@thyrsus.com> Reply-To: esr@thyrsus.com Mail-Followup-To: "Eric S. Raymond" , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kbuild-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Organization: Eric Conspiracy Secret Labs X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org The latest version is always available at http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/cml2/ Release 1.1.6: Tue Apr 17 17:34:05 EDT 2001 * Steven Cole caught a buggy baton. Another hour, another error report... -- Eric S. Raymond Under democracy one party always devotes its chief energies to trying to prove that the other party is unfit to rule--and both commonly succeed, and are right... The United States has never developed an aristocracy really disinterested or an intelligentsia really intelligent. Its history is simply a record of vacillations between two gangs of frauds. --- H. L. Mencken From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 21:10:10 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 21:10:00 -0400 Received: from libra.cus.cam.ac.uk ([131.111.8.19]:14229 "EHLO libra.cus.cam.ac.uk") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 21:09:54 -0400 Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.2.20010418020921.03e99d40@pop.cus.cam.ac.uk> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 02:12:00 +0100 To: esr@thyrsus.com From: Anton Altaparmakov Subject: CML2 1.1.5, more comments Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kbuild-devel@lists.sourceforge.net In-Reply-To: <20010417174407.A6667@thyrsus.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Hi, A few comments on cml2 1.1.5 running on my Pentium 133S (make menuconfig, fastmode): - Instantaneous moving up/down! Excellent! - Thanks for dark blue! The cyan was barely readable. Now all the colours are nicely readable. I don't necessarily like your choice of colours but as long as I can read the text, that's fine. - When I set something to yes it goes green. When I then set something else to yes the new one goes green, too, but the old one also remains green. Is this intended? (i.e. does green mean "already visited" or something like that?) Also, on the CPU selection menu, it started off with two of the CPUs already in green (but only one with a yes). Is that a feature or a bug? - Moving left/right can still be quite painfully slow... - Setting options is sometimes very slow, sometimes ok... (depends on complexity of underlying rules I guess) It is definitely usable now compared to 1.1.0. But if the last two points could be speeded up, it would be great. Best regards, Anton -- Anton Altaparmakov (replace at with @) Linux NTFS Maintainer / WWW: http://sourceforge.net/projects/linux-ntfs/ ICQ: 8561279 / WWW: http://www-stu.christs.cam.ac.uk/~aia21/ From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 09:57:21 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 09:57:12 -0400 Received: from snark.tuxedo.org ([207.106.50.26]:2054 "EHLO snark.thyrsus.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 09:57:03 -0400 Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 09:58:02 -0400 From: "Eric S. Raymond" To: Anton Altaparmakov Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kbuild-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: CML2 1.1.5, more comments Message-ID: <20010418095802.B17193@thyrsus.com> Reply-To: esr@thyrsus.com Mail-Followup-To: "Eric S. Raymond" , Anton Altaparmakov , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kbuild-devel@lists.sourceforge.net In-Reply-To: <20010417174407.A6667@thyrsus.com> <5.0.2.1.2.20010418020921.03e99d40@pop.cus.cam.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.2.20010418020921.03e99d40@pop.cus.cam.ac.uk>; from aia21@cam.ac.uk on Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 02:12:00AM +0100 Organization: Eric Conspiracy Secret Labs X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Anton Altaparmakov : > A few comments on cml2 1.1.5 running on my Pentium 133S (make menuconfig, > fastmode): > > - Instantaneous moving up/down! Excellent! A consequence of getting the incremental-refresh logic right. > - Thanks for dark blue! The cyan was barely readable. Now all the colours > are nicely readable. I don't necessarily like your choice of colours but as > long as I can read the text, that's fine. It's a difficult balancing act. A lot of the people asking for color changes aren't aware of some of the constraints -- one of them being that 12% of the male population has red-green color blindness. Blue turns out to be about the only color that people with any form of color blindness can recognize. > - When I set something to yes it goes green. When I then set something else > to yes the new one goes green, too, but the old one also remains green. Is > this intended? (i.e. does green mean "already visited" or something like > that?) Also, on the CPU selection menu, it started off with two of the CPUs > already in green (but only one with a yes). Is that a feature or a bug? That's right. Green means "visited or set". > - Moving left/right can still be quite painfully slow... I know. The basic problem here is that the configurator has to recalculate visibilities for every item in the new nenu. I have some ideas for speed- tuning this. > - Setting options is sometimes very slow, sometimes ok... (depends on > complexity of underlying rules I guess) Yes. There is at least one more major speedup I may be able to get out of this. -- Eric S. Raymond Whether the authorities be invaders or merely local tyrants, the effect of such [gun control] laws is to place the individual at the mercy of the state, unable to resist. -- Robert Anson Heinlein, 1949